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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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The prefect setup.
Looks great.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Looks great!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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looking good, but why didnt you go with +30 offset to make the wheels fit correctly?
That makes too much sense.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Congrats on the setup. It looks great and handles like a dream, I'm sure! Robi does excellent work!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Awesome
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FJF
That makes too much sense.
Negative. There are evos running with up to +15 offset, and they look friggen sick! No widebody either. Stretched tire, rolled fender, negative camber. I'm planning on getting the 57s' in 18x9.5 with approx. +20

To the OP, thanks for the pics! That helps me out even more!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by occultworks
Negative. There are evos running with up to +15 offset, and they look friggen sick! No widebody either. Stretched tire, rolled fender, negative camber. I'm planning on getting the 57s' in 18x9.5 with approx. +20
Obviously, you can do whatever you want. Having to roll fenders just to look "friggen sick" isn't exactly a performance-driven mod, nor is arbitrarily changing the suspension geometry for the sake of appearance. Personally, I like a car that handles well and the Evo does that bone stock. The rest is up to the pilot.

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Wah. I never said I was going to go to the extreme of an offset in the tens. Negative camber also helps cornering, so I don't know where you're coming from there. The only aspect about it that doesn't help performance is the stretched tire.

Besides, I didn't know I was even referring to the performance aspect of wheels choices. I was obviously only speaking in terms of looks. And wide wheels with a small offset look great. So to some people it does make sense.

Have a nice day.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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the wheels are okay, but they would look better if they were 18's
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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nice stance
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by occultworks
Wah. I never said I was going to go to the extreme of an offset in the tens. Negative camber also helps cornering, so I don't know where you're coming from there. The only aspect about it that doesn't help performance is the stretched tire.
I'm astonished that you're able to assert handling improvements based on some yet to be defined standard without the benefit of empirical testing. Regardless, I doubt whether those whose primary interest revolves around making cars look "friggen sick" would ever tap into the full potential of the machine.

Besides, I didn't know I was even referring to the performance aspect of wheels choices. I was obviously only speaking in terms of looks. And wide wheels with a small offset look great. So to some people it does make sense.
Appearance is a matter of taste. The guy who delivered a pizza to my house the other day, driving a Corolla with a body kit and chrome rims liked the way his car looked, too. Good luck to you.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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You want empirical data? For what? It is commonly known that some negative camber does help cornering. What's so hard to understand?

So you're saying that you would rather drive a ****-box that does 10s, than drive a nice looking car that does 12s? Like you said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I was just pointing out that just because he didn't go with the vanilla +30 to "make it fit" doesn't make it wrong. It obviously still works, and all he had to do was roll/cut the fender, which doesn't negatively affect performance in any way. I just quoted an extreme case of 9.5inch wide wheels at +15 to show that +30 isn't the end all be all.

I obviously should have quoted the person who asked about the +30 instead of you because you took it way to personally. And quoting a phrase that I used repeatedly isn't helping you get your point across. If it helps any, I understand where you're coming from. I'm just saying it's not the only alternative.

To the OP, sorry about the sidebar. Your car looks great, and you helped reaffirm my belief that you don't need to follow the crowd.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Damn, so correct fitting wheels and properly mounted tires are played out already?
I'm so out of touch.

Nice pics.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by occultworks
You want empirical data? For what? It is commonly known that some negative camber does help cornering. What's so hard to understand?
You'll have to forgive me when I say that asserting a Universal TrVth with no regard for the geometry/application is simply ignorant.

So you're saying that you would rather drive a ****-box that does 10s, than drive a nice looking car that does 12s?
I don't recall saying anything of the kind. In fact, I talked about cornering, which is the exact opposite of traveling in a straight line.

Like you said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I was just pointing out that just because he didn't go with the vanilla +30 to "make it fit" doesn't make it wrong.
Okie-dokie

It obviously still works, and all he had to do was roll/cut the fender, which doesn't negatively affect performance in any way.
Rolling the fenders effects the integrity of the body, and using an offset that doesn't fall within the constraints of the suspension's geometry hurts performance.

I just quoted an extreme case of 9.5inch wide wheels at +15 to show that +30 isn't the end all be all.
The resulting offset should match the suspension geometry, relative to the size of the wheel.

I obviously should have quoted the person who asked about the +30 instead of you because you took it way to personally. And quoting a phrase that I used repeatedly isn't helping you get your point across. If it helps any, I understand where you're coming from. I'm just saying it's not the only alternative.
An alternative to what? Better handling? Probably not. Better appearance? That's for the car's owner to decide.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to a track star/suspension guru/scientific genious. Let me put it this way, if someone is going for a crazy offset wheel, then more than likely they're not some time-attack hero, therefore loosing .0x G on the skidpad isn't going to matter much to them. 90% of the people who drive an Evo probably can't even max out the abilities of their car in stock form. If your intentions are purely based on racing and performance, then great. But what's the point of cluttering this guys thread with this conversation because you think his wheels adversley affect some aspect of performance in which he'll probably never utilize to its fullest?

Why don't you go make your own thread titled "Crazy offset wheels are ghey." This is pointless.
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