thanks brendan for bringing a little life back to the thread. i find it really humorous how people feel the need to take the picture of miguel's z, with a bent wheel and damaged fender, and use it as ammunition to flame those who follow the wheel fitment scene on their indigenous forums. Grow up, get out, and go find something more worthwhile to spend your time on.

 

could you explain this one? maybe i am missing something, but everything i have seen in this thread and elsewhere relating to stance, hellaflush etc is about wheels not properly fitting.

huge wheels that stick out way past the body of the car, tires that dont fit properly, looks over performance etc. This statement contradicts the very belief system of people who are into the "stance" scene.

 

And that pic has been posted everywhere.

Just like when a (insert fake wheel copy here) breaks. It makes its rounds on the internets.

 

says who? i can easily wear a 3XLT t shirt (I'm only 5'10") and say that it fits, while others may disagree, I'm clearly fitting in it. Similarly I can slip on a youth size sock and say that it fits, while others may call it stupid, it's clearly on my foot.

so who decides what fits properly and what doesn't? While you may think an 18x10 with a 225 tire doesn't fit, I may think an 18x8 with a 245 doesn't fit. The difference here is I don't go into threads that I don't have interest in and bash people because their wheels aren't flush with the fender or because I can see into their wheel well because they're not super low, based on my opinion and judgement. Similarly, I wouldn't walk into a Manchester United bar and root for Liverpool.

 

^Well stated.

 

I Agree with jstelll.! Well Said!

Now back on topic! Enjoy! PhotoShop Playing around!

 

Math and physics. You're looking at this from the standpoint of fashion and we're looking at it from the standpoint of engineering. Your argument would float if we were discussing a choice of a matching purse. As we're talking about cars, objects that inherently do just three things - they accelerate, they decelerate, and they corner - fashion doesn't even take second place.

 

I usually agree with you when you stir the pot, but I have to say that this time I disagree.

The 'stance' crowd peeps are not trying to push the car to the limits, they drive around slow and low and the engineering argument doesn't really apply because the car is still fine to putz around with 4* of camber, bad camber curve due to improper suspension geometry and stretched tire(setups that rub are a different story). Push the car to the limits and it will not be very rewarding, but this is a style standpoint. Just because the car was engineered to be tracked doesn't mean those aspects of the car must be maintained when it will never be driven in manner, so why do you care so much? They aren't claiming they're fast that way, they're claiming it looks cool where beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Cliff notes: stop caring so much about other people's right to have their own opinion about what looks cool. It's not like you were tricked to come in here. Not everyone wants to drive an evo around with 2" of front wheel gap like you :P

 

Fair enough.

Then, why choose an Evo to do it with? It's not a car that lends itself to this style, it's not a particularly suave-looking machine, it's not a comfortable car, it's not easy to own, but it does carry a tremendous degree of street cred. The only reason is to look fast. It's the poseur syndrome extrapolated to the N'th degree.

Because, this is a public discussion forum and that's what we do; we discuss. If one doesn't want his comments/pics discussed, he shouldn't post them on a discussion forum.

If any of us decided to visit a forum solely dedicated to flossing a given style - like Fatlace or whatever, I'm really not sure of the names - and decided to engage its residents in rational conversation about automobiles, you'd have a point. No matter how you slice it, this is EvoM - a board dedicated to one of the best performing machines on Earth. The funky fresh crew is on our turf and it has to deal with everything that comes with it. The same option that allows folks to post and discuss their style, regardless of automotive constraints, is what allows the rest of us to comment on the same. Fair is fair.

FWIW, I enjoy this thread. Perhaps for the wrong reasons, but I do like reading it. It's not a perspective I see IRL.

 

I agree, but I don't care what these guys do to their cars. It means that there are just that many less Evo's out there to compete with :P Making other weaker cars think that Evo's are less capable, only so that I may one day come upon them and wreck their world view.

 

I have to disagree with the question of who decides what size tire goes on what rim.

If your tires folds under the rim or you have some other mishap related to ridonkulously sized tires wheels then I think physics decided for you. LOL.

And for the record I don't like tons of rubber on a wheel as well. Extreme the other way is still extreme.

Anyways carry on.

 

I can appreciate a proper setup. Its the dramatic stretches that get me. Thats all.

 

So on some level, you are admitting that some of these cars do look really good, although they may be at the same time making you angry that someone has taken the time to devolve something that took much evolution, if the pun fits.

They choose an evo because its fun, cheap, good looking and still pretty fast even when its been devolved.

Some of the cars in here are plain ol' stupid, but some of them look really good when done tastefully - a word that is pretty subjective in this thread.

I might put a set of wheels wide enough to put the thread to shame on my car this year. Just not sure if I want to spend that much money on the looks only department. With the custom widebody I have now I have clearance through full suspension stroke on 10.5+15's on 285 R-comps, but it would look cool to put the car on 12's and lower it even more for the occasional weekend drive and maybe a show or two.

 

Less talk more pictures?

 

@FJF-- I agree with you on multiple topics, and disagree equally. First of all, if i have the money to purchase and own a car, i should be granted the right to modify it in whichever ways i choose. I'm sure everyone could agree with that.

Personally, I like car's that are equipped with 'the full package' - Low, aggressive wheels/stance/wheel fitment (whichever you prefer), and engine modifications - Enough to maintain form and function, whatever the balance may be. I'm still new to EVOs and I am nowhere near the most knowledgable about them, so I look into build threads and see what parts people run, what kind of numbers setups put out, but I am ultimately there to learn and increase my knowledge. The difference in this scenario is that people don't come into this thread to learn, they come to derogate other people's choice in modification, simply because they wouldn't do so on their car.

Yes, I completely agree on the simple fact that this is an open forum meant for discussion. And when discussion is carried out civilly, like the way that you demonstrated, no one is angered, offended or irritated. What gets old is the people that come in and antagonize instantly, and aren't open for discussion, simply because they are ethnocentric and believe that anything that doesn't increase an EVO's ability to perform is wrong. But it's not their car so why do they care?

It's just a shame to me that there are so many arrogant members on this board, where all of us share the interest for the same car. I'm not preaching to the elitists to be open and welcoming to the 'funky fresh crew', but what sense of gratitude to they get out of being so negative and derogatory.

By the way, I respect the way you entered out patch of grass on your field and approach discussion in a polite and constructive manner.