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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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For those of you that don't know how to cure this:

Use Permatex Copper anti-seize compound in place of the red CRC anti-squeel. Dealers/Mechanics don't know about this you have to tell them. The OEM Brembo pads were installed using this stuff.

If you are using aftermarket pads, you need to peel off the shim glued onto the back of the OEM pad with a razorblade, as well as the obvious metal shim. Use them both on the new pads.

Apply the Permatex liberally but do not get it on the face of the pads. Put it on the face of the pistons, both sides of both shims, and the brake pad backing plate.

If you didn't get this done by your auto mechanic (which you probably didn't) it's very easy to take out the pads & put them back in. Basically it's just a matter of taking off the wheel and tapping out the 2 rods that retain the whole pad assembly. You can do it all in less than an hour.

Good luck squeekers!
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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That explains it then. I noticed a crapload of the copper stuff on the stock front pads but just the red stuff on the rear.

I also didnt take the glued cloth looking shim off the stock pads. Thx for the tips I'm sure this will take care of the squeeks.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by machron1
For those of you that don't know how to cure this:

Use Permatex Copper anti-seize compound in place of the red CRC anti-squeel. Dealers/Mechanics don't know about this you have to tell them. The OEM Brembo pads were installed using this stuff.

If you are using aftermarket pads, you need to peel off the shim glued onto the back of the OEM pad with a razorblade, as well as the obvious metal shim. Use them both on the new pads.

Apply the Permatex liberally but do not get it on the face of the pads. Put it on the face of the pistons, both sides of both shims, and the brake pad backing plate.

If you didn't get this done by your auto mechanic (which you probably didn't) it's very easy to take out the pads & put them back in. Basically it's just a matter of taking off the wheel and tapping out the 2 rods that retain the whole pad assembly. You can do it all in less than an hour.

Good luck squeekers!


yeah...definitely do not get them on the pads....cuz uf you do..u'll get a squeek and a quack quack...(kinda like the sound Tupperware makes when they are squeeky clean).....when anti-sqeal heats up on the rotors....and 'cleans' the surface....it'll make that noise everytime the pads go over the effected area.....

had this happen on my prelude...



also...for all those 'just-installed squeekers'....make sure you go through the proper bedding process for that particular pad. if not....the pads aren't going to be properly broken in...and cause alot of squeeking....

correct bedding does help the squeaking alot...but in time..u'll probably hear it again...from time to time.....just the nature of them being performance pads.....

just my 2c.....
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by justchil
That explains it then. I noticed a crapload of the copper stuff on the stock front pads but just the red stuff on the rear.

I also didnt take the glued cloth looking shim off the stock pads. Thx for the tips I'm sure this will take care of the squeeks.
The red stuff is great for minivans and such, but it just burns off if it heats up to the limits of performance brakes. The copper anti-seize is made for extreme high temperatures. That's why the OEM Brembo pads come with a healthy dose of the copper stuff in a packet.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:42 AM
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Yah

Mine quit squeeking but I've ordered some Permatex Copper stuff.

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MR-SilverEVO8
They lied to you and took your money for nothing. You can reuse the old shims, they are not a wear item. Just clean them, apply the anti-squeal grease and put them back in there correctly. Anyway, the new shims are not likely to cure the squealing since nobody knows why they squeal.....
they did not lie to me i looked at the pads myself and tried to get one of the pad and i could not get it off. there were two in each caliper. one was free and the other one wasn't.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kipper215
they did not lie to me i looked at the pads myself and tried to get one of the pad and i could not get it off. there were two in each caliper. one was free and the other one wasn't.
The metal shims shouldn't need to be replaced. The shims on the back of the pad need to be carefully removed with a razorblade or similar implement, and AFAIK don't have a part number.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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HB mitsu put the new shims in and the squeek is gone. i do feel a small increase in braking performance(still running stock pads in the front).
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by machron1
The metal shims shouldn't need to be replaced. The shims on the back of the pad need to be carefully removed with a razorblade or similar implement, and AFAIK don't have a part number.
On evo pads there are 2 shims one set is not attached to the pad the other is riveted on
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kipper215
On evo pads there are 2 shims one set is not attached to the pad the other is riveted on
I've never seen any shims riveted anywhere, where did you find rivets?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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I'm going to snap pics of all these shims to clear up any confusion. I forgot to put the 2nd set of shims on my new pads.

Pics up @ around 4pm EST
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by justchil
I'm going to snap pics of all these shims to clear up any confusion. I forgot to put the 2nd set of shims on my new pads.

Pics up @ around 4pm EST
Cool. It's funny something so simple can cause so much confusion.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Installed my Project Mu NS pads and there is no sqweaking at all...maybe my first brake very slightly because it is the winter time but nothing afterwards...

I had the dealer install mine. They did a great job
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Karash
Installed my Project Mu NS pads and there is no sqweaking at all...maybe my first brake very slightly because it is the winter time but nothing afterwards...

I had the dealer install mine. They did a great job
Mine did not squeak right away either..... just wait
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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I couldn't get a pic of the metal shims but I'm sure everyone knows what they are... These apear to be metal too with something layered on the outside. They are glued to the OEM pads

Click thumb to see it bigger... click the bigger pic to see a 5mp pic



I took one of the plates off the back pad.. the others were left on.
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