OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN! this is exactly waht i was looking for... damn... hey... chris told me i should talk to you about getting parts... hehe... damn you saved my **** mang.

oh wow holy crap they sell the hose too... just in time... i was about to install all my lines and stuff.

so is there any way to just shield the abs sensors? and can someone look into making a caliper vent kit... looks like they just did some bending on aluminum... doens't look pressed.

and is there no way as things are now to make the hose directed more towards the middle of the rotor?

 

ok so upon further research i think what we all want (ideally) is something like this:

http://www.timskelton.com/lightning/...ling_ducts.htm

i have to admit this guy's install is SO clean... and ironically enough it's on a truck. so... is this feasible on the evo's dust shield, i would prolly want to cut most of the shield away and just have enough of it left to have proper bolting points but i have yet to take a really good look at it from under the car.

few concerns. is hte dust shield far enough away from the rotor so that you can bolt this thing up if you "put it in the right place"

 

yeah, this is what I am talking about...... notice how he uses a funnel/duct to help massage air into the system and how he transformed his rotor heatsheild/backing into a useful air duct. I bet doig it this way 'really, really, really' works well.

thx for the link! =)

 

I went the Derek **** method with my ducting and it has worked to keep the brakes cooler.
My only problem was my poor instillation. I allowed the duct to come close to the axle boot.
I failed to insure the duct did not work it's way into a rubbing position. Eventualy the duct wore through the boot.

 

how did you fix it... or how would you recommend remedying the situation?

keep in mind the link i sent... the dust shield he is using does not cover the caliper section of the brake assembly which means the shield is much closer to the actual rotor... our is gapped by the caliper because it sits behind the caliper... so it's a trick to get everything in there...

so i figure why not just find a handy bolt somewhere already in there and just put hte "spindle duct" right as close as possible and just skip the dust shield... anyone been in there and gotten a good look? the pictures offered between the two installs in this thread are more than enough, i just don't know which bolts are safe to "borrow."

btw the other install is done by mark (gt40), he did report that the ducts helped, but we'll see if it can't get better yah?

 

yeah, you are right... I took a closer look today while bleeding the brakes and it is a tight fit in there.. seems like what you are suggesting would be the best solution.

 

I think the truck install is nice, but he has a hell of a lot more room than we do. I was also going to use funnels, but with the tight radius that has to be bent just behind the grill a funnel puts things too far back to not kink the hose.

The supplier in the OTC link you listed is good, and has high temp Aircraft 2-ply hose (SCEET). It is not cheap, but it is good to 500Degrees, so it should survive well under hood.

I am actually mounting my flanges to the black plastic covers behind the grills, rather than relying on the grill mesh istelf. Will take more time to implement, but I think it will be a sturdier setup over all.

While I agree that the air not going directly to the center of the hub is less than ideal. Just the simple airflow hitting the caliper and rotor is a whole lot better than the OEM air guides, and certainly better than stock. AS always this IMO.

 

I got all the stuff that was in the truck write up and will see if I can fit it in there... I know it is a tight fit.. but, I have done the derek-OTC set up on 2 previous track cars and the set up is just too flimsy and breaks apart after a while.

I am looking to make something that is not only more efficient, but sturdier and last longer for a daily driver/weekend warrior.

I'll post some pics this weekend when I try to figure out fitment and other issues.

n

 

I have a post in Motor Sports about some hard ducting I am making to mount up with flex hose

 

Here are some cool ideas I found while researching this.

 

Here is the thread. Kinda hard to find.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=123837

 

you know i'm kinda tired of waiting around for someone to make one of these. and the piece from the uk is way expensive. i'm thinking of making something like the first picture above, does anyone know of a place that sells oval aluminum piping?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=58106

i found this place from the timskelton site http://www.butlerbuilt.net/airmansyst.html

that oval tubing down there at the bottom of the page, which is already beaded, costs 19 per foot. using 60 thousandths al.

i say you cut maybe a 3" section, put a little angle on the cut maybe 2* then find the placement on the caliper and then cut a mounting plate and have it welded in a shop. for that 5 minutes of weld time it couldn't cost more than 50 bucks all together.

and if there are any clearance issues with the oval tubing and the hub area you can always tap a little of the oval tubing in so that it is more bean shaped.

i guess the only problem with this exact idea is that you need to use 3" hose, which is not a big deal cuz the hose isn't where space is cramped and since most duct inlets are 2.5 you can just use a transition hose.

for an added kicker, to those running the cwest bumper, you can use the bottom two inlets on the bumper and mold one of these http://www.stockcarproducts.com/duct1.htm (they come in other more appropriate sizes) into the inlet and you'll have yourself a proper ducting inlet. i was thinking of doing a lot of trial and error cutting then using one pop rivet and a lot of epoxy to make it an integral part of the bumper.

bumpers that already have brake duct inlets include the valdi sport pumper which gruppe-s is currently offering at 900 bucks and the gramlights bumper which aspec will be offering shortly for around 500 (ducts included). if you want to see what the gramlight bumper looks like check out the hks meet video on socal evo

 

I think there is a company called Kami Sports or something that has a brake cooler. Let me see if I can find it.

 

Sorry no luck I have the web address at home.

 

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