Alignment question- did reaserch already
Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Not to be a dick...but this gets asked a million times a day on this forum but it is not a question that anyone can really answer.
Evo MR, it's my daily driver. I don't track it, though I'd like to sometime. I do autocross, though. I'll be running in A Stock with sticky R compounds. I'm not terribly comfortable with oversteer on the street--wouldn't want much more than stock. My previous car was an understeering pig (STi).
Originally Posted by Kyperion
the one I listed above worked really well for me last year. with an MR, you might be able to get away with as high as -2.00 neg camber in the front since you ahve the better Centerd and front Diff's than I do.
Does anyone have any experience with this settup? Or will anyone offer a projection as to how the car would handle with these specs:
-2.0 camber, L/R fronts, 0 toe
-1.0 camber, L/R rears, 0 toe
I assume that with these specs it will overstear like a RWD car?
Thanks,
Chris
-2.0 camber, L/R fronts, 0 toe
-1.0 camber, L/R rears, 0 toe
I assume that with these specs it will overstear like a RWD car?
Thanks,
Chris
Originally Posted by TexasRS
Or will anyone offer a projection as to how the car would handle with these specs:
-2.0 camber, L/R fronts, 0 toe
-1.0 camber, L/R rears, 0 toe
I assume that with these specs it will overstear like a RWD car?
-2.0 camber, L/R fronts, 0 toe
-1.0 camber, L/R rears, 0 toe
I assume that with these specs it will overstear like a RWD car?
BTW, most stock Evo suspensions won't let you get a full 2 degrees of negative camber up front. Mine maxed out at only -1.8 degrees, but I'm sure there's some car-to-car variation.
Emre
I ran -1.8/-1.0 with 0 toe for most of last year, along with a 25mm rear sway bar set to the middle of three positions. The car was very neutral - just a bit of understeer present, but much less than stock. I also had Tanabe springs on the car for most of the year. Before the last DE I put on a set of RRE JIC's and went to -2.5/-1.0 with 0 toe and that dialed out some more of the understeer. I have some new specs I'll be trying out this year though.
For context I guess I should add this was for Solo2 and DE's at Putnam Park, Mid Ohio, and Nelson Ledges, and this year I will be a "B" group driver.
For context I guess I should add this was for Solo2 and DE's at Putnam Park, Mid Ohio, and Nelson Ledges, and this year I will be a "B" group driver.
Originally Posted by 992gnt
I ran -1.8/-1.0 with 0 toe for most of last year, along with a 25mm rear sway bar set to the middle of three positions. The car was very neutral - just a bit of understeer present, but much less than stock. I also had Tanabe springs on the car for most of the year. Before the last DE I put on a set of RRE JIC's and went to -2.5/-1.0 with 0 toe and that dialed out some more of the understeer. I have some new specs I'll be trying out this year though.
For context I guess I should add this was for Solo2 and DE's at Putnam Park, Mid Ohio, and Nelson Ledges, and this year I will be a "B" group driver.
For context I guess I should add this was for Solo2 and DE's at Putnam Park, Mid Ohio, and Nelson Ledges, and this year I will be a "B" group driver.
Another part of the alignment equation is whether you have springs or not. If you have lowering springs that helps in the front to allow for a full -2 camber. To get into the oversteer setup, you would need toe out-in the rear, (not safe for street driving IMHO as mentioned above.), You might also need stiffer rear sway bar, and I would recommend a strut tower brace. Those last two (Sway & BAR) mods will necessitate a choice on whether you will run Solo2 AS, or ESP. A choice I leave to you. While the last two may not be necesary, setting toe out in teh rear without adressing overall car balance may ust lead to more 4 wheel drift than overstter. The back steping out, and the front pushing as well. AS always that is just my .02
Just had mine aligned today. I have Hotchkis springs and rear bar at the stiffest setting. Car still had mild understeer. I got all the available negative camber available in the front with the factory hardware. I had to sacrifice some negative camber in the rear to avoid unwanted toe-in. New settings are shown below.
Left front: -1.6 camber; 3.5 caster, -.02 Toe Right front: -1.9 camber; 3.3 caster; -.01 toe
Left rear: -.9 camber; .01 toe Right rear: -.7 camber; .01 toe
Any efforts to increase the rear camber required additional toe-in so I opted for the max camber available with the near 0 toe settings in an effort to mitigate understeer.
I am not positive which option has the most impact on understeer, more negative camber or less toe-in. I went with less toe-in.
Anyone care to share their insights?
Left front: -1.6 camber; 3.5 caster, -.02 Toe Right front: -1.9 camber; 3.3 caster; -.01 toe
Left rear: -.9 camber; .01 toe Right rear: -.7 camber; .01 toe
Any efforts to increase the rear camber required additional toe-in so I opted for the max camber available with the near 0 toe settings in an effort to mitigate understeer.
I am not positive which option has the most impact on understeer, more negative camber or less toe-in. I went with less toe-in.
Anyone care to share their insights?
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