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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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lowering springs

was thinkin about buying coils but ill have to wait awhile they are expensive is it worth the 200$ to buy lowering springs and do they works as good or better than stock what brands do you have or have ridden in and how did they do
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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No, it's not worth it. No, of course they don't work as good or better than stock unless you get a few specific sets and combine them with the proper supporting mods (e.g. rear sway and bushings) in order to halfway set up the car properly. Springs alone will just lower the car and blow the struts.

As for brands and such, please learn to search before asking such basic questions. You've already made 3 threads with noob questions without searching - maybe even more that I haven't seen yet. Please also learn to use the newbie forum before venturing into other forums.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No, it's not worth it. No, of course they don't work as good or better than stock unless you get a few specific sets and combine them with the proper supporting mods (e.g. rear sway and bushings) in order to halfway set up the car properly. Springs alone will just lower the car and blow the struts.

As for brands and such, please learn to search before asking such basic questions. You've already made 3 threads with noob questions without searching - maybe even more that I haven't seen yet. Please also learn to use the newbie forum before venturing into other forums.
I hate to tell you this, but you are wrong. there is nothing wrong with buying springs. I would only buy coilovers if I am going to track my car. buying coilovers to go to and from work is stupid. in the morning to work there is traffic and going home from work there is traffic. coilovers for freeway on ramp racing (yeah right) if you are going to buy springs, buy good springs like swift, eibach, or Espelir. I have swift springs and they are great and my car handles great. I don't track my car so I don't need crazy suspenion. if you buy cheap springs then you will have a problem.

do your reseach on the boards there is a lot of good information here. searching is not easy due to having to read through BS posting, but there some good stuff on here.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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thanks
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Most people on this site have no concept of what "as good or better than stock" is on an Evo because most people dont push these cars to those limits. So, it is actually a waste of the cars potential and his money to buy $200 "lowering" springs, especially with the wheel and tire combination in his other thread. Posting a question on this forum should only happen after the OP made an attempt to search. Thats just something thats not done here anymore.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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No, I'm not wrong, you're just deluded. You did choose one of the few sets of springs that are recommended, but they're still not supposed to be used alone, and they don't really do anything for the car. How can you claim they make your car handle great when you never race it. You FEEL that it handles great, because it did lower the center of gravity and the springs are a stiffer than stock, but you wouldn't be any faster around an auto-x or road course. Many times people make the mistake of thinking they are faster without actually knowing it. Happens all the time. Also, there is the eventual damage to the struts. The Swift springs are not supposed to be used alone - they are supposed to be combined with a rear sway and bushings, at which point you have reached the cost of a $900 set of Megan coilovers that are adjustable for all situations (highway, traffic, track, whatever), whereas your springs are not.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Swift springs ($280) + Hotchkis RSB ($200) = $480. And there's no reason why the Swift springs can't be used alone and still provide better road grip than stock. Handling balance can be tuned with alignment changes instead of with a RSB.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Get the springs... I noticed when I changed out my springs, the car's ride was much smoother. Warrtalon will be Warrtalon!
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No, I'm not wrong, you're just deluded. You did choose one of the few sets of springs that are recommended, but they're still not supposed to be used alone, and they don't really do anything for the car. How can you claim they make your car handle great when you never race it. You FEEL that it handles great, because it did lower the center of gravity and the springs are a stiffer than stock, but you wouldn't be any faster around an auto-x or road course. Many times people make the mistake of thinking they are faster without actually knowing it. Happens all the time. Also, there is the eventual damage to the struts. The Swift springs are not supposed to be used alone - they are supposed to be combined with a rear sway and bushings, at which point you have reached the cost of a $900 set of Megan coilovers that are adjustable for all situations (highway, traffic, track, whatever), whereas your springs are not.
warrtalon is right. i use to think springs are a better way to go until my friend blew his struts and shocks with dropping his car only with lowering springs. and at the end, he bought coilovers because buying stock one agains would end up with the same outcome and more money wasted. why buy springs and only be able to stay at one height and damage your struts and shocks at the same time. why not get coilovers which you can adjust to the height that your prefer whether it be a slight drop or slammed. and you will enchance the performance of your car instead of destroying it. and megan racing coilovers are the way to go. once i get enough money those bad boys are going on my car.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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warrtalon is right. i use to think springs are a better way to go until my friend blew his struts and shocks with dropping his car only with lowering springs. and at the end, he bought coilovers because buying stock one agains would end up with the same outcome and more money wasted. why buy springs and only be able to stay at one height and damage your struts and shocks at the same time. why not get coilovers which you can adjust to the height that your prefer whether it be a slight drop or slammed. and you will enchance the performance of your car instead of destroying it. and megan racing coilovers are the way to go. once i get enough money those bad boys are going on my car.
What kind of springs did your friend have?


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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Swift springs ($280) + Hotchkis RSB ($200) = $480. And there's no reason why the Swift springs can't be used alone and still provide better road grip than stock. Handling balance can be tuned with alignment changes instead of with a RSB.
I think we have a winner.

This topic comes up all the time, and the responses always amaze me.


An increase in spring rates matched to the (overdamped) stock dampers with a mild drop somehow does not improve grip? Hmmmm....i don't buy it.

Yes, some springs are too low and too soft, and certainly don't improve handling. But you can't lump them all together.


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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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there are several springs that are definitely worth getting, yes there is better ways to mod the car for the money but if you want looks a some added performance, springs can do the trick...pick carefully
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