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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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17x10 and 17x9 35mm setup

I was wondering if anyone is running 17x10 & 17x9 +35mm wheels on their MR. If you are please post some pics. Also, did you have to run spacers or roll the fenders and what size tires? Any rubbing issues? My search button doesn't work. Thanks in advance!
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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17x9 requires rolling front AND back. I dont believe a 17x10 fits at all on the rear without losing your fender.

275 tires, rubbing all over the place.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
17x9 requires rolling front AND back. I dont believe a 17x10 fits at all on the rear without losing your fender.

275 tires, rubbing all over the place.
you sure about 17x9's requiring a roll?

I guess it really depends on the tire, 17x9+35 w/255/40-17 RA-1 I did NO rolling at all and had no rubbing issues. I did have to run a little camber out back though.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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255 ra-1's will rub. Not severely though.

The only reason i can see running bigger wheels, is to run bigger tires. 275's work great on 17x9's, however, you can put more wheel into it, as a 9 inch wheel is on the smaller end of workable in that equation.

255's polished the rear arm a little, 275's buff it smooth
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
255 ra-1's will rub. Not severely though.
Not with a 9" wheel with 38mm offset and -1.25 degrees of camber in the rear. Mine tucked nicely with no fender rolling and did not even come close to trailing arm interference.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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17x9 will not rub...i know for a fact...
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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Not with a 9" wheel with 38mm offset and -1.25 degrees of camber in the rear. Mine tucked nicely with no fender rolling and did not even come close to trailing arm interference.
original poster wants 35 offset, not 38

edit: this is also on oem suspension. Camber, and different coils give you completely different rub points.

Put it this way, i had holes in my fender liners before i started running 275's. now, i don't have fenderliners.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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I run 17X10 rpf1's with 255.40.17 on RobiSpec basic suspension, I have not done any fender work and no rubbing.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0375.jpg
http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t=DSCN0372.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0359.jpg

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kodiak
I run 17X10 rpf1's with 255.40.17 on RobiSpec basic suspension, I have not done any fender work and no rubbing.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0375.jpg
http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t=DSCN0372.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0359.jpg
Can I ask you why you went with such a large wheel for such a small tire?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kodiak
I run 17X10 rpf1's with 255.40.17 on RobiSpec basic suspension, I have not done any fender work and no rubbing.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0375.jpg
http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...t=DSCN0372.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...o/DSCN0359.jpg
17X10 with what offset? +18?

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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It looks bad *** and I want to move up to 275's once I learn how to drive better. Was told for my HP which is stock right now 255's would be best.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
original poster wants 35 offset, not 38

edit: this is also on oem suspension. Camber, and different coils give you completely different rub points.

Put it this way, i had holes in my fender liners before i started running 275's. now, i don't have fenderliners.
Right and 3mm doesn't cause an issue either. A lot of people I know use FNO1RCs for their race tires with a 35mm offset with no rubbing issues at all.

OEM suspension gives you more clearance all around as far as fenders are concerned.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NDgsx
Right and 3mm doesn't cause an issue either. A lot of people I know use FNO1RCs for their race tires with a 35mm offset with no rubbing issues at all.

OEM suspension gives you more clearance all around as far as fenders are concerned.
Dude, i'll put it to you this way, I couldn't run 275's without the camber plates on my kw's. They rubbed the spring. If you've seen how small the kw's are relative to stock, I can say theres no way.

The issue here is more tires than wheels. 255's will get a touch of rubbing, 275's will rub. I can't see why you'd go to 17x10 and not want 275 rubber.

Then you've got ride height, that induces a good bit of rubbing on it's own.

Final issue is camber. Sure you can make anything fit with camber, but is that the amount of camber you really want to run? Clearances shouldn't determine camber, suspension setup, and the track should.

I've gone through 3 sets of ra-1's on my first set of fno1rc's (1 @ 255, 2 @ 275), and i'm onto the first set of nt-o1s on another set of fno1rc's. I think it'd be safe to say that after 28 events in the car, I know what rubs
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
Dude, i'll put it to you this way, I couldn't run 275's without the camber plates on my kw's. They rubbed the spring. If you've seen how small the kw's are relative to stock, I can say theres no way.

The issue here is more tires than wheels. 255's will get a touch of rubbing, 275's will rub. I can't see why you'd go to 17x10 and not want 275 rubber.

Then you've got ride height, that induces a good bit of rubbing on it's own.

Final issue is camber. Sure you can make anything fit with camber, but is that the amount of camber you really want to run? Clearances shouldn't determine camber, suspension setup, and the track should.

I've gone through 3 sets of ra-1's on my first set of fno1rc's (1 @ 255, 2 @ 275), and i'm onto the first set of nt-o1s on another set of fno1rc's. I think it'd be safe to say that after 28 events in the car, I know what rubs
Reading comprehension is getting the best of you. I stated that the OEM suspension gives you more clearance IN TERMS OF THE FENDERS.It does, the car is higher and since the suspension has far to travel in bump before the tires could hit the fenders the wheel is at much more negative camber (than it would be were the car slammed).

So going back to your first post, NO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ROLL THE FENDERS JUST TO FIT 17x9s. You may have to roll/trim the rear fender for 275s, but that is all.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
Dude, i'll put it to you this way, I couldn't run 275's without the camber plates on my kw's. They rubbed the spring. If you've seen how small the kw's are relative to stock, I can say theres no way.

Final issue is camber. Sure you can make anything fit with camber, but is that the amount of camber you really want to run? Clearances shouldn't determine camber, suspension setup, and the track should.
Like NDgsx did, I do tires for a living. My living room and garage show it well. First to clear up some points:

255's will not rub at 35mm, running split widths is dumb (17x10 et35 is the same as my fronts 9.5J et 25 for relative placement) and unneeded if everything else has been calculated correctly.

Camber plates will not keep a tire from rubbing on the spring as it adjusts camber at the top instead of the knuckle as would a cam bolt.

I have run 25mm, 35mm, and 38mm offsets in 9.5" wheels at both stock ride height and stock suspension and on H&R coilovers (60mm ID spring, whats the KW?) I run -2* in the front and -1.8* on the street both at 0* toe and still have more outside shoulder wear on the fronts than inside.

Cliffs-Setup is everything and unless you took the time to setup your car YOURSELF your comments lack some weight. If I had a Robispec alignment I probably would have gone through that many sets of RA1's as well.
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