Sorry if you took it as degrading, but the fact is it does not handle like a dream relative to a stock Evo. The reason why I even bother to refute that fact is because some other newbie (like the person who made this thread) might actually be MISLED into thinking all they need to do is get some light 17" rims and put 255-width 300 treadwear tires to suddenly "handle like a dream." I have no doubt that what you feel is "dreamy" compared to your FWD GSX, but we aren't comparing to FWD DSMs. We are comparing to the Evo in stock form, because that's the only comparison that makes sense when someone is asking about "wheel size and performance" on an Evo.

Make sense? Don't get bent out of shape on account of me. I am direct and curt - some kiddies take it as degrading. And yes, I _DO_ have the right to tell you how it feels (or doesn't feel) just as you have the right to make such a false claim.

 

Eh? I don't fail to understand anything. My experience is certainly relevant, because I have raced my Evo on stock suspension with the stock tires, on the stock suspension with race tires, and a built suspension with race tires. I know that going from stock suspension, stock rims, and stock tires to slightly better rims and slightly larger street tires has a VERY MINIMAL effect on handling. Therefore, my own experience is 100% relevant when refuting his claim. I don't care if he thinks his Evo has dreamy handling. What I do care is that other newbies might read it and think that's an actual recipe for improved handling when it's not.

Got it? What you see as "picking on the new kids" is me making sure the "new kids" don't get misled. Kinda funny how you don't notice that, but that's what happens when you have an agenda...

 

Yeah ur right , 2 Size's larger and a lightweight rim , Makes no impact on performance. and if YOU notice , he mentioned NOTHING about aftermarket Suspension , Coilovers , or anything else for that matter. He mentioned Wheel Size. I stated i went with 17x9's for STREET use. and it handled very nice on the STREET. NOT the track. Ovb a built suspension with Race tires and 285's is going to handle WAY better then a street car.

Matter is he never mentioned what HIS goal was So why dont we Find out that is so we can all give him the information he is looking for

 

That's a fierce setup, but why pay a hundred dollars more per tire for the same width in a 17"?

 

Just curious that you mentioned for street driving that you run the Azenis RT-615.

Obviously these are less costly than the A0-46's but would there be any degradation in grip on the street?

Obviously, one can't get too crazy on the street....but there are some good tight turns in my area that I yank the wheel around for fun and I have concern that the RT-615's would lose grip and slide my A$% into a damn wall....ha ha

Can you elaborate on street safety with those tires?

Thanks bro for your time in answering!!!

 

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You can get the same width rim in a 17", yes, but you can't get a 285 width tire in a 17. With a 17X9.5, the best you can get is a 275/40 tire, but that has a much taller sidewall and doesn't fit as well as a lower profile 285/30. That's why we go to 18X9.5s or 18X10s with a good offset. We get increased track width, more rubber, and better fitment. You're right, though, that it does increase the cost a bit. It's not $100 more per tire, but 18s always cost more than 17s. It was a choice I had to think about for a while before making it.

 

I didn't say "no impact." I said it has a "very minimal effect on handling." For instance, my stock rims are only 17lbs, because I have an MR, and I use 255s daily. Sounds like you except I didn't have to buy aftermarket rims. Your 9" rim is better for a 255, but not enough better to justify the cost, and unless your 255s are as good as the stock Advans, then it's very likely you gained absolutely nothing in terms of handling. If your 255s are top of the line street tires, then you probably did gain some thanks to the greater contact patch with lighter rims. Either way, though, the handling is not dreamy unless you consider the stock handling dreamy. Make sense?

Anyway, yes, he only asked about wheel size and performance. You answered in terms of wheel size and performance, however, you did NOT say "they handle very nice on the STREET." You just said they handled like a dream, and I proceeded to tell you and him that is not an accurate description of the difference made by your minor upgrade. Make sense?

 

LOL...wow I think after that post I'll put you in the catagory of "thinks he knows stuff"

In fact AMS runs 16" wheels on their Drag Evo. If you look around you'll soon find out that a lot of professional drag cars run 15's or 16's with slicks.

So unless you can support your "opinion" please refrain from calling anything "stupid" until you can back it up.

 

However, that's the only place smaller rims make sense along with rally where good tires only come in 16" sizes. The OP didn't say anything about trying to run 9s in the 1/4-mile or racing in the dirt, so those comments hold true for any normal Evo use.

 

I was just refutting his statement that "you won't find anyone" with 16's. And the OP didn't say at all what type of driving they were for so there's no reason for you to even have said that.

And my first post was also refutting the use of 18's for slicks. If you're going as far as to run slicks you should also be running the smallest/widest wheel you can mount on your car for weight savings.

 

Not if you're road racing or autocrossing. I run slicks on 18s. I think you're confusing drag racing with twisty racing. The slicks he's referring to are for road racing, and yes, we have more selection in 18" sizes. No one uses 16s for this purpose on Evos, and most of us use 18s. Again, what you're referring to is strictly for full drag cars. These cars aren't driven on the street with those rims and tires.

 

look who's talking lol

good job pointing out the one big exception

 

Evo's with gravel-spec rims are another big exception.

 

Yup I was talking, and I backed it up. Sorry you can't seem to deal with that.