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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Not if you're road racing or autocrossing. I run slicks on 18s. I think you're confusing drag racing with twisty racing. The slicks he's referring to are for road racing, and yes, we have more selection in 18" sizes. No one uses 16s for this purpose on Evos, and most of us use 18s. Again, what you're referring to is strictly for full drag cars. These cars aren't driven on the street with those rims and tires.
Damn I must've done that again. I coulda swore drag racing had turns in it! :P

Chill man, always correcting me.....
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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I don't currently own an evo but I'm in the market for one. Trying to figure out what makes sense for street use only. Not looking for track time...yet.

OK so I'm sticking with 17's.

I'll have to read through this post several times to glean all the info on wheel/tire combos.

Thanks for all the info, its a big help!
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Think of it this way...it's your car and in the end you are the only one who really cares how it performs. If you want 18's, get them. If you want 20's, get them (lol, please don't!) But it's your car and with enough time in the seat and on this forum you'll figure out what works for your style of driving and what doesn't.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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I'll have to side with Warrtalon here on his viewpoints.

As for wheels people, get whatever wheels is appropriate for whatever you intend to use your car for.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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17's are an optimal choice, but i can't honestly say I have noticed a major downfall in performance when 18's are added to the equation. Really, the best thing to do in extreme situations is run a wide offset on the front of an evo than in the back. The wider stance helps contribute to a reduction in understeer. However, I am not an aficionado on this (anymore, November I sold my Evo)...but the options for 18" rubber are far greater than 17's nowadays.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Understeer can be corrected with proper anti-roll bars and suspension set up.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I guess it can be.....care to elaborate? Im interested in what you know, suspensions are my weak point.

Just the same, considering the Cyber evo, TRB02 a.k.a CT230R or whatever it is now use staggered fitments, along with several other track style evos out there, I'm wondering how much a roll it plays into under steer elimination, the staggered fitment that is, or if its just a look cool but makes little difference in performance type of thing. It seems proper in theory, but having never driven a car with such a degree of setup, I dont know.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Yes those guys are using a staggered fitment. But keep in mind that those are dedicated track cars designed to run on ultra smooth race courses. Try driving one of those cars on the road and you will more than a handful.

As for suspension, all I've read came from many issues of Sport Companct Car. I really didn't commit it all to memory but if you check out thier website www.sportcompactcarweb.com (I think) you might be able to find their articles on suspesion and how it all works.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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I have 255's on the Stock 17" Rim....??
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Putting 255's on the stock rims though , Strech's the tire. I was told 245's was the biggest you should go on stock rims

I went from 255's on the stock rims, to 255's on my current rims , FN01R-C 's. and on the 17x9 Wheel it feels a lot better
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BostonEvo
Putting 255's on the stock rims though , Strech's the tire. I was told 245's was the biggest you should go on stock rims

I went from 255's on the stock rims, to 255's on my current rims , FN01R-C 's. and on the 17x9 Wheel it feels a lot better
For like the thousandth time, 255 RT-615s work GREAT on the stock tire. It does not stretch the tire much, and the performance is great. I don't know why people are having such a hard time understanding this. We say it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER. This "someone told me" junk just has to stop!

It's way more economical to just put $500 RT-615s on the stock rims than to go buy a whole set of 17X9s just to use the same tires. It's also much more economical to use those 255s on stock rims and then get a REAL set of race rims and tires for whatever racing you do as opposed to a mild rim upgrade that uses the same tires as everyone else with stock rims.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cirrusly Evolvd
Understeer can be corrected with proper anti-roll bars and suspension set up.
It can be corrected WITHOUT changing the bars, too, by just the suspension setup. One of the techniques for achieving this is what feldguy said, and it does not required a staggered setup. That's why many of us use spacers in front so that we get more track width up front than in the rear. In my case, I have a 25mm spacer up front but with the same rim size front/rear.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Hey Warrtalon, I talked with a guy in a black Corvette with a crazy vented hood from Denver at the NASA event at MAM yesterday. I told him I drove an Evo and he mentioned some guy who drives one in his region. Apparently, this guy in the Evo is "really, really fast." When he said the guy's handle was Warrtalon, I said, "Oh no, not that mother-scratcher."
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by speedomodel
Hey Warrtalon, I talked with a guy in a black Corvette with a crazy vented hood from Denver at the NASA event at MAM yesterday. I told him I drove an Evo and he mentioned some guy who drives one in his region. Apparently, this guy in the Evo is "really, really fast." When he said the guy's handle was Warrtalon, I said, "Oh no, not that mother-scratcher."
Haha! Yeah, was it an older guy with dark hair? I think that might have been Bob Cherf with a nice black Z06 that has a big aftermarket wing. Great guy, if so.

He's definitely felt the wrath of the Warrtalon Evo, except that he met his demise when I was still on the stock suspension and street tires (RT-615s).

Man, I wish like hell that my wife hadn't put the smack down on road racing this year, else I'd have been running TTS at the MAM event...
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
It can be corrected WITHOUT changing the bars, too, by just the suspension setup. One of the techniques for achieving this is what feldguy said, and it does not required a staggered setup. That's why many of us use spacers in front so that we get more track width up front than in the rear. In my case, I have a 25mm spacer up front but with the same rim size front/rear.
Hey Warr, long time no speak.

Spacers, huh? No crap! I did not know that, I mean. Interesting to know now...as Ive always been big on rotating the tires and staggering the sizes would be a pain, and also you can take it off on the road.

How long are your wheel studs anyways?
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