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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 03:40 AM
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Stock wheels with long studs?

Does anyone know if there are open end lug nuts available that will work with stock wheels (for running long studs)?

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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Kics lug nuts...i got it from A-spec.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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I looked there, but didn't see them. Those all appear to be for aftermarket wheels (cone seat). You are using them with your stock wheels?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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http://www.ezaccessory.com/
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Yes, those work from EZ accessory, that's what I use. Just make sure to buy a couple extra, and get a tap for them as well, since the quality of them aren't exactly perfect:

http://www.ezaccessory.com/Toyota_Le.../98-0003oe.htm
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Rich, I assume you're looking for shouldered, open-ended lug nuts that are obviously needed for extended studs and for properly seating to the stock wheels? I definitely need a set, because I have extended studs on all 4 hubs and only have acorn-style lugs to hold my stock rims, which is not proper.

I would be wary about Toyota lugs. Fireball, those are for sure the right size and have the proper design for mating to our stock rims?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Chuck a set of the stock lug nuts into a lathe and cut off the acorn. Perfect fit and cheap.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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The ideal solution is a set of open ended lug nuts that have more thread, so you are actually benefiting from the engagement that is available from using the longer studs.

Otherwise, what's the point?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
Yes, those work from EZ accessory, that's what I use. Just make sure to buy a couple extra, and get a tap for them as well, since the quality of them aren't exactly perfect:

http://www.ezaccessory.com/Toyota_Le.../98-0003oe.htm

I use those with my extended studs. I recommend replacing them once per year, especially if driving on salted roads during winter. They aren't very resistant to corrosion but fit fine.

-Paul
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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The ideal solution is a set of open ended lug nuts that have more thread, so you are actually benefiting from the engagement that is available from using the longer studs.

Otherwise, what's the point?
Cutting off the acorn doesn't remove any threads, and the point of using longer studs is to allow use of spacers - giving you more stud to thread onto. The length of the lug nut is irrelevant.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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The use of wheel spacers is one reason that longer studs are sometimes used, but certainly not the only reason. The use of long studs allows a longer lug nut, which engages more thread and spreads the load over more length of the threads in the stud and the lug nut, making the assembly less likely to fail under high load. That's why is not "irrelevant" at all -- using a longer length stud with the same factory nut (even modified to be open ended instead of acorn) adds no strength to the assembly. Many racing sanctioning bodies require longer than stock wheel studs and open end lug nuts, which has nothing to do with using spacers.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon

I would be wary about Toyota lugs. Fireball, those are for sure the right size and have the proper design for mating to our stock rims?

They work fine, been using them on my stock BBS's for over a year.
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Old Jul 12, 2018 | 01:47 PM
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Bring this back from the dead, but i can't find these 98-0003OE anywhere and they have probably been discontinued. Anybody know of any true alternatives?

I found these, but would really prefer a single piece design with washer built in.
Amazon Amazon
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Do you still have a set of stock lug nuts? Is so just lop off the cap with a cutoff wheel; it isnt structural but rather a thin piece of metal.

Alternatively, I believe Toyota makes an open ended set that people have good success with. What you're after is an m12x1.5 with mag seat.
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Old Jul 12, 2018 | 02:48 PM
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Could also get conical inserts like these: https://www.cecodist.com/wheel-accessories/wheel-inserts/

It
wouldn't be hard for a good machine shop to drill the lug holes on center and press these in.
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