What will be affected when camber, caster, and toe changes?
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What will be affected when camber, caster, and toe changes?
Ive been trying to search for these answers but my results havent been too great.
Ive been learning about camber, caster, and toe from websites, because I am a noob. But, I have yet to find out what each would do to the control of the car, such as:
If Camber is TOO negative, you would experience more grip in corners.
I dont even know if that is true, its just an example of what I am looking for. So if anyone can explain the effects of each, it would be really great.
Ive been learning about camber, caster, and toe from websites, because I am a noob. But, I have yet to find out what each would do to the control of the car, such as:
If Camber is TOO negative, you would experience more grip in corners.
I dont even know if that is true, its just an example of what I am looking for. So if anyone can explain the effects of each, it would be really great.
Ive been trying to search for these answers but my results havent been too great.
Ive been learning about camber, caster, and toe from websites, because I am a noob. But, I have yet to find out what each would do to the control of the car, such as:
If Camber is TOO negative, you would experience more grip in corners.
Ive been learning about camber, caster, and toe from websites, because I am a noob. But, I have yet to find out what each would do to the control of the car, such as:
If Camber is TOO negative, you would experience more grip in corners.
Camber has a sweet spot that depends on your tire type/width/size, spring + sway bar rates, what kind of driving you do, even vehicle weight. Go too far and you have less grip. Too little, same thing, but you do have better grip for braking and accelerating. Too little doesn't always mean better tire wear either. Generally, the wider/grippier the tire the more camber needed, since camber is there to make up for roll, and the grippier tires result in more body roll.
Toe is trickier, and is usually best set to 0. You can play with how the car turns in or breaks away from grip, but anything other 0 toe or very slight toe in/out will result in accelerated tire wear and the car can become a handful with toe out. Toe in helps straight line stability.
Caster isn't adjustable unless you have Ground Control camber plates or Whiteline's upcoming plates. Basically, the more caster you run, the less camber you need to run. Too much caster and steering feel gets crappy.
- Andrew
Well, too much of anything can be bad....basically there is a sweet spot for everything. Here's a little help on each one though.
Camber has a sweet spot that depends on your tire type/width/size, spring + sway bar rates, what kind of driving you do, even vehicle weight. Go too far and you have less grip. Too little, same thing, but you do have better grip for braking and accelerating. Too little doesn't always mean better tire wear either. Generally, the wider/grippier the tire the more camber needed, since camber is there to make up for roll, and the grippier tires result in more body roll.
Toe is trickier, and is usually best set to 0. You can play with how the car turns in or breaks away from grip, but anything other 0 toe or very slight toe in/out will result in accelerated tire wear and the car can become a handful with toe out. Toe in helps straight line stability.
Caster isn't adjustable unless you have Ground Control camber plates or Whiteline's upcoming plates. Basically, the more caster you run, the less camber you need to run. Too much caster and steering feel gets crappy.
- Andrew
Camber has a sweet spot that depends on your tire type/width/size, spring + sway bar rates, what kind of driving you do, even vehicle weight. Go too far and you have less grip. Too little, same thing, but you do have better grip for braking and accelerating. Too little doesn't always mean better tire wear either. Generally, the wider/grippier the tire the more camber needed, since camber is there to make up for roll, and the grippier tires result in more body roll.
Toe is trickier, and is usually best set to 0. You can play with how the car turns in or breaks away from grip, but anything other 0 toe or very slight toe in/out will result in accelerated tire wear and the car can become a handful with toe out. Toe in helps straight line stability.
Caster isn't adjustable unless you have Ground Control camber plates or Whiteline's upcoming plates. Basically, the more caster you run, the less camber you need to run. Too much caster and steering feel gets crappy.
- Andrew
Andrew,
How do I know what my toe is set at. I am running Tein Flex and the only thing that i have touched is the camber to make it stop wearing out the inside of my tire
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If DIY then make a trammel gauge and measure - 3 pieces of wood and about 10 minutes work. Otherwise, you need the services of an alignment shop.
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Get it on an alignment machince and have them check it out.. Toe is the biggest cause of irregular tire wear, and is probably the most common to get out of alignment.. But it's also the easiest to set back usually.
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