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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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coilovers are very stiff for daily driving....

If you dont have perfect roads youre going to hate them..


Fl roads are nice so i ahve no problems... But i've caught air probably 10 times int he past 3-4 months ive had my coil overs in places i never did it with stock suspension.

Coil over are amazing and work very well.. But unless youre really pushing the car to its very limits there isnt a difference. I dotn need them, i jsut got a crazy deal that would have been stupid to pass on.

I drive very very aggresive and push my car to the limits as often as possible since thats what i bought it for and the car handled almost as well with my tanabe springs and stock struts as the coil overs do. If i had a rear sway bar i would say its equal on the street. During an autox i did i noticed a nice difference with the coil overs that i didnt have with my tanabe/stock strut setup.



Originally Posted by big block ix
Swifts springs lower the fronts way more then you would think.. the rake is almost like a funny car..
they are recommended by people that don't know ****..

Takes two vendors that sell a product to say its the best adn thats it everyone will buy it....

I'm gonna milk this example again.... Forge MBC... Even i was foolish enough to buy it along with 200+ others and did nothing but spike and if the temp changed 2 deg so would my boost. Do some research adn y ou decied what you want. The forge was garbage and i ended up getting a hallman es for $15 on ebay and i still use it to this day, havent adjusted the boost in 8 months and im still planted at the boost i set.

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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Onyxeros
Or you could shorten the strut body, lengthen the spring and lower the rate. In theory you could have a kick *** non-coilover system but the time and $$ spent may not be worth it
I don't understand why you would recommend shortening the strut body if you are lengthing the spring and lowering the rate. Lowering the rate would cause the static compression of the springs to increase while lengthening the springs could compensate. Shortening the strut body would reduce the amount of travel on the shocks. Maybe you meant to say lower the lower spring perch but then again that would pose its own tire/wheel clearing issues.

Originally Posted by big block ix
Swifts springs lower the fronts way more then you would think.. the rake is almost like a funny car..
they are recommended by people that don't know ****..
Most aftermarket springs are a compromise of style, comfort and handling. And although they do lower the car (some more than others), most manufacturers try to compensate by increasing the spring rates so that the shocks don't bottom out. A little bit of added rake can actually improve the handling. I think it was quite prudent of you to jump to such a conclusion.

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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
I don't understand my you would recommend shortening the strut body if you are lengthing the spring and lowering the rate. Lowering the rate would cause the static compression of the springs to increase while lengthing the springs could compensate. Shortening the strut body would reduce the amount of travel on the shocks. Maybe you meant to say lower the lower spring perch but then again that would pose its own tire/wheel clearing issues.

You are correct i meant to say shorten the strut body and lower the perch.
So the idea is to be able to lower the car while keeping the same amount of travel as stock.

With a longer spring (say 10in instead of 9in) you can run a lower spring rate
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I Drove around with MR specific Swifts springs on my first Evo and they absolutely ruined the performance of the Bilsteins..

I would never recommend them to anyone..

I Think that it is downright dangerous to try and drive aggressively with a compressed strut especially the stock Bilsteins over any type of broken asphault..

Saying they are made for the Bilsteins and that they are only a SLIGHT downgrade is just a lie..
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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^^Wow coming from a newb with 24 posts??? Do you know maybe before mouthing off Robi and some of the other major vendors have ran Swifts successfully and reduced laptimes and improved handling. Maybe you should either do a little research first or learn how to properly setup a suspension before bashing something you have no clue about. I have a properly setup and aligned suspension and I can tell you my MR handled significantly better than ANY stock evo...also included evos with coilovers that aren't setup properly. Thank you and have nice day.

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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there is a evo out ax'ing with swifts on mr's.... with 275 710's and absolutely destroys out there so much that I am tempted to get some bilstiens and swifts.
you would think with the 275 Rdots that they would need a coilover but it rides well.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by big block ix
I Drove around with MR specific Swifts springs on my first Evo and they absolutely ruined the performance of the Bilsteins..

I would never recommend them to anyone..

I Think that it is downright dangerous to try and drive aggressively with a compressed strut especially the stock Bilsteins over any type of broken asphault..

Saying they are made for the Bilsteins and that they are only a SLIGHT downgrade is just a lie..
hrrrrrmmmmmm
you do know that the spring goes in between the perches right?
seriously as i said in the previous post I have ridden in a MR swift car and they ride great.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by big block ix
Swifts springs lower the fronts way more then you would think.. the rake is almost like a funny car..
they are recommended by people that don't know ****..
I think you are talking about the s-techs...
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