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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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1. Ultimate set-up: Ohlins fixed perch adjustable dampers with either Swift or our own GTWorx springs

2. Awesome: Bilstein HD dampers (or EVO MR Bilsteins) with Swift or GTWorx springs

3. Good: stock EVO dampers with Swift or GTWorx springs.



Both the Swifts and our GTWorx springs are great. The Swifts lower the car a little more then ours, but are a little softer. Pick which ride height you like better.


You can add a rear swaybar and some Whiteline bushings if you like, but for just a DD, you don't really need to.


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just my opinion....
Where would you rank the Bilstein PSS9 on your list?
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Tough call. Kinda near 1, but it's a very different feel. Very comfortable, but still feel like coilovers. Really really good coilovers with great valivng though.


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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Tough call. Kinda near 1, but it's a very different feel. Very comfortable, but still feel like coilovers. Really really good coilovers with great valivng though.


- Andrew
Cool, right now they are the top pick on my list based on the research I've done. If my budget allows next year I'm getting those. Separate adjustment of compression and rebound in particular are key for me.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Separate adjustment of compression and rebound in particular are key for me.
In that case, KW's would be worth looking into. A true 2 way for under 2k. The provided rates (9k/6k) aren't great though, custom rates are recommended.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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In that case, KW's would be worth looking into. A true 2 way for under 2k. The provided rates (9k/6k) aren't great though, custom rates are recommended.

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What custom rates do you recommend for mostly DD, but the odd auto-X or track day (2 or 3 a year)?
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
In that case, KW's would be worth looking into. A true 2 way for under 2k. The provided rates (9k/6k) aren't great though, custom rates are recommended.

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Wait...are you saying the PSS9 combine rebound and compression in one adjustment? If so that really sucks, if anything a single adjustment product should keep compression fixed and adjust rebound only.

I'll definitely give the KW's a hard look since they are a true 2 way.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper3
Wait...are you saying the PSS9 combine rebound and compression in one adjustment? If so that really sucks, if anything a single adjustment product should keep compression fixed and adjust rebound only.

I'll definitely give the KW's a hard look since they are a true 2 way.
Yeah, rebound and compression with 1 knob. Not my thing really.

Ohlins single adjustment is rebound only, the way it should be.

We've been really happy with KW.


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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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What custom rates do you recommend for mostly DD, but the odd auto-X or track day (2 or 3 a year)?
7k front and 8k rear is a popular set-up of ours for that kind of usage. Great handling, and ride quality is still good too.


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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper3
Cool, right now they are the top pick on my list based on the research I've done. If my budget allows next year I'm getting those. Separate adjustment of compression and rebound in particular are key for me.
This is kind of off topic, but you have looked at these:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ighlight=zzyzx

They've generated a bit of buzz in the subaru community but evom hasn't really been talking about them. They are priced similarly to the KWs (once you add camber plates and rear topmounts).

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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This is kind of off topic, but you have looked at these:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ighlight=zzyzx

They've generated a bit of buzz in the subaru community but evom hasn't really been talking about them. They are priced similarly to the KWs (once you add camber plates and rear topmounts).

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That's funny, I just started reading up on the zzyzx earlier tonight to learn more about them. Thanks for the link, I'll definitely consider them when the time comes.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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What spings will give the lowest ride hight and still have desent handling? Swift? GTWORKS? Some others?

Edit: With MR Bilsteins shocks

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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What spings will give the lowest ride hight and still have desent handling? Swift? GTWORKS? Some others?

Edit: With MR Bilsteins shocks
swift will drop your car more
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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What spings will give the lowest ride hight and still have desent handling? Swift? GTWORKS? Some others?

Edit: With MR Bilsteins shocks

Chris is right, Swift if you want the drop.


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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by donour
This is kind of off topic, but you have looked at these:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ighlight=zzyzx

They've generated a bit of buzz in the subaru community but evom hasn't really been talking about them. They are priced similarly to the KWs (once you add camber plates and rear topmounts).

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They look pretty good. Koni is good stuff and zzyzx knows what he's doing. Their 2 ways are a bit more then KW's, but I'm sure they're great.

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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They look pretty good. Koni is good stuff and zzyzx knows what he's doing. Their 2 ways are a bit more then KW's, but I'm sure they're great.
To be fair, it is not really and apples to apples comparison. The zzyzx price includes custom springrates and has a trick bolt on the lower bracket that allows enough camber to forgo plates for a lot of applications.

I don't really know much about the KWs, but I read somewhere that they also use koni inserts. Is this true?

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