THE best street coilover
Originally posted by Rez90
Just a little FYI
i was talking to jeff hill at Turbotrix today and he told me that the Tein FLEX for the EVO VIII is the same as the EVO VII. i guess it fits both cars.
He also told me to wait on my suspension because tein is redesigning the FLEX system specifically for the EVO VIII to make a true system specifically for our cars.
Just a little FYI
i was talking to jeff hill at Turbotrix today and he told me that the Tein FLEX for the EVO VIII is the same as the EVO VII. i guess it fits both cars.
He also told me to wait on my suspension because tein is redesigning the FLEX system specifically for the EVO VIII to make a true system specifically for our cars.
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hmmm i wonder what changes were made on the Flex for the VIII...Im kind of leaning towards the JIC FLT's...
Value - thanks a lot for that list! Im sure others can use it as well.
Value - thanks a lot for that list! Im sure others can use it as well.
Sorry but I have to cry foul on that one. They are the same. Same part # same specs. Same price. Hope he doesn't try to charge you more. Here's some eye candy to hold you over. 
nope, same price, but to be quite honest with you I have no idea what the differences are, if any, between the two sets...hmmm, I wonder. As for the stiffness of the Flex system: you guys are kidding right? We are talking about coilovers and an EVO. If you want a smooth ride go buy a Lincoln
Wow! Jeff is still around? Back in the early 90's I went to his shop in Signal Hill.
I dont doubt what he says - but how could the Flex be made different specifically for the EVO VIII? We already have killer EVO specific pillow ball mounts (camber adj) - both front and rear (non adj). I dont think the valving could be changed..and we already have compression and rebound adjustments. I'm a little confused? Maybe the spring rates
But you can already choose your rates..
Phil - you are correct - you do want a slightly higher rate in the rear. However, you must make the comparison based on the stock rates. If the rates are 60% fr and 40% rear (add up the rates and divide by either number to get the %..
Say the stock rates are 55% and 45%.. the Tein Flex are 504 and 448 = 952. So thats roughly 52% and 47%. The rears are slightly stiffer.
I dont doubt what he says - but how could the Flex be made different specifically for the EVO VIII? We already have killer EVO specific pillow ball mounts (camber adj) - both front and rear (non adj). I dont think the valving could be changed..and we already have compression and rebound adjustments. I'm a little confused? Maybe the spring rates
But you can already choose your rates..Phil - you are correct - you do want a slightly higher rate in the rear. However, you must make the comparison based on the stock rates. If the rates are 60% fr and 40% rear (add up the rates and divide by either number to get the %..
Say the stock rates are 55% and 45%.. the Tein Flex are 504 and 448 = 952. So thats roughly 52% and 47%. The rears are slightly stiffer.
Mojo "must live, breath, speak, sleep, EVO" Notice on the Japan tein site the VII and VIII have the same spring rates, part # everything. It would be surprising if Tein USA made their own coilover for the EVO VIII but you never know.
http://www.tein.co.jp/flexdamp2r.html
http://www.tein.co.jp/flexdamp2r.html
There are some of us out here that want comparable performance to stock, but with the convenience of height adjustment. Everyone does not track their EVO. With that being said, which coilovers are equal to or softer than stock?
The Flex's will be here tomorrow.. I'll post the results (softer, stiffer) Be advised tho, I will be adding the Cusco adj rear bar..so dont expect the same results, handling wise.
boosted - give me a call, I can give you the rundown on the coilovers. If you are not looking for something that requires increased maintenance or fiddling, I would adbise you honestly to stay away from coilovers, and go for something like the Ralliart setup, which is heigh adjustable, or the Sports setup, which gives you a fixed drop, but has 4 way dampening adjustment, This will give you a matched strut/spring, but still give you superior handling. Sway bars would dramatically help as well (we use Cuscos).
As for the Tein Flex, the revised ones are now in stock...spring rates are the same up front (559 bs), rear is actually a bit stiffer than the Evo VII units (447 lbs), but valving is significantly changed at all four corners to make it more compliant for US roads (valving was softened compared to the Evo VII units). Thesea re dual height adjustable, meaning you can lower the car both via the lower spring perch as well as the lower bracket. This means you can reduce rideheight without compromising suspension travel. The body of the coilovers are teflon coated for rust protection, espeically usefull where it rains alot, or where salt is an issue in the winter time. Includes pillowball mounts front and rear, and is also compatible with the EDFC, which permits dampening adjustment front and rear from inside the car with a small control box (about the size of an HKS Turbo Timer).
All the coilovers will be stiffer than stock, but not necessarily in a bad way..the valving is such where its a much more controlled ride overall. The Flex is a good system for someone whose car is primarily street driven, but wants dampening adjustments. However, a couple things to note - these are a twin turbo strut, so they do make a slight "squish" sound over small bumps. Also, due to the overall design of the rear suspension, much like a WRX, the rear pillowball mounts can be a bit noisy at low speeds.
Adam
As for the Tein Flex, the revised ones are now in stock...spring rates are the same up front (559 bs), rear is actually a bit stiffer than the Evo VII units (447 lbs), but valving is significantly changed at all four corners to make it more compliant for US roads (valving was softened compared to the Evo VII units). Thesea re dual height adjustable, meaning you can lower the car both via the lower spring perch as well as the lower bracket. This means you can reduce rideheight without compromising suspension travel. The body of the coilovers are teflon coated for rust protection, espeically usefull where it rains alot, or where salt is an issue in the winter time. Includes pillowball mounts front and rear, and is also compatible with the EDFC, which permits dampening adjustment front and rear from inside the car with a small control box (about the size of an HKS Turbo Timer).
All the coilovers will be stiffer than stock, but not necessarily in a bad way..the valving is such where its a much more controlled ride overall. The Flex is a good system for someone whose car is primarily street driven, but wants dampening adjustments. However, a couple things to note - these are a twin turbo strut, so they do make a slight "squish" sound over small bumps. Also, due to the overall design of the rear suspension, much like a WRX, the rear pillowball mounts can be a bit noisy at low speeds.
Adam
