Smike

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The two that I have driven on are Swift and Whiteline. The Swift front sway bar is lighter and 18% stiffer over OE. The Whiteline front sway bar (FSB) is good also - some 34% stiffer if I remember right.

RobiSpec also has a bar. I have not driven.

Rear sway bars - Swift, Perrin, Whiteline, RobiSpec. All proven.

Beyond that, it all depends on your style and what you like.

Oettinger

Is good combining stock-front with rear whiteline? is decompensated?
Many brands what is the most correct... buffff

Smike

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I only recommend doing both bars.

I like running match pars too. So Swift front and rear. Robi front and rear. Or Whiteline front and rear. Another mix is Whiteline front and Perrin rear.

MJ23FE

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Mike,
Would you care to explain to folks why you recommend running both bars and not just the rear?
Thanks.

-Jalal

Zeus

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Because adding just the rear bar does not ADD grip, it removes it for the most part. Esp when you start tripoding and only have one rear tire on the ground.

Smike

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Just doing the rear bar - over compensating the rear bar will amplify the tripod mode. Having a stiff bar, is like having a stiffer rear spring -- in a way. But still having a soft front. The front will have more of a tendency sway and plow at entry.

Adding a front bar in conjunction with a rear bar will attack both sway areas at once. Not allowing as much front sway/plow and getting the car to rotate more effectively.

But going too big can have consequences.

If you are running 12k/16k springs, most don't do sways then. You are already so stiff, it wont matter. But if you are running Swift/GTWorx springs with less rates. The sways can really optimize your setup.

Oettinger

Ok! Perfect sways + spings swift is the better combo. Veeeeery Thanks!


Someone compare times in circuit?
Versus --> Sways + Springs Swift VS OHlins Flag or BC ER.

Smike

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Depends. My AX times where lower on this setup over my Megan Tracks. Car was much easier to drive and much more comfortable to push at the limits. It actually handled well.

My combo is basically a non-adjustable coilover.

Ohlins would be faster when properly setup and balanced to that drivers wants.

BCs - not a fan. Their valving does not appear to be consistent or spring rates correct.

Oettinger

Ok! best times with Megan Tracks, ok ok. Megan is better than BC?

Smike

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No. Best times with my Swift combo. Megans were worse.

Virgil072

Whats a better out of the gate mod?

Thinking of swapping out all my bushings with an Energy Master Kit, Anti-lift ZERO from Perrin, Whiteline Roll center kit, and then I come to a cross roads, springs or sways first?

Smike

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I would do springs and sways first. The full bushing kit is PITA to install. I never ran them either.

GTWORX.com

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Off topic, I would recommend the anti-lift kit that adds caster.

Bushings are worth it especially on an older car. I don't have much experience with the full energy kit...we put together a "geometry and bushing kit" from whiteline that works well. IMO that's a good way to start, but the thing is most of these mods require an alignment, so doing them separately means you pay for multiple alignments.

- Andrew

Oettinger

ok ok sorry!
With 35k miles is in good condition my KYB? or buy others in new conditions?

Oettinger

Bump! for my last question, and other please... Beetwen Eibach Pro vs Swift SpecR, more difference in caracteristics?