Maybe it's just me but I think these tires can't hold a dime to the stockers (obviously they cost 40% less and wear 20% longer).

They howl like a spanked monkey when pushed around a corner that wouldn't even make a chirp on a the stock tires and their responsiveness to turn in is delayed.

I turn in and then the car moves after some small delay; the car's not tossable anymore - when you toss into a corner, there's almost a rubber band snap into the corner and it feels almost like the tire's rolling on its sidewall and then rolling back the other way, like an overcompensation.

They do brake in a straight line very well, arguably as good as or better than stock. But that's it.

For whatever it's worth, I did get a 4-wheel alignment and made sure that all the suspension geometries were in like with factory settings after getting the new tires put on.

At least they're cheaper but they're not for me.

 

I noticed turn in was slower too but I had my car aligned at the same time (flipped the bolts -2.0)....

The seam to roll quieter and smoother tho...

 

they are race compound and do have to warm them up to get the most out of them

 

heh. the RE-01Rs on my car are pulling 1.29 G on my GPS/ accelerometer based data acquisition. unfortunately, i don't have data for the AO46s, but i definitely like the RE-01Rs better - the response isn't as hyper, ride is so much smoother and quieter. there's a difference between feedback and noise, just like there are exhausts that sound good and exhausts the sound loud.

i think that the 046s fall into the latter category, but if you prefer em, you should be able to sell your RE-01Rs pretty easily.

 

The are high grip compound... but I'm pretty sure they're not r-comps...

 

I put mine on 9" rims to help offset the softer sidewall. Worked like a champ! Now I'll never go back to A046's.

 

For one post up your EXACT alignment specs. Secondly, RE01Rs are a much much quieter tire than the stocker. Outright grip is the same if not better. Turn in is not much different you just have to up the psi. Stock psi doesn't work well in these tires at all. After you get a track event on them or really heat cycle them once they are a totally different tire. After 2 events on mine they grip better than the stockers and barely ever make a peep. Give them some time...if they were as bad as you say they wouldn't be probably one of the most tracked street tire.

 

Oh, that's probably fair. They're basically still new (just a few hundred easy miles on them).

What PSI are you running to get the turn in that's as good as the A046s?

I'm probably not going to be on a track any time soon - is there an easy way to heat cycle them without endagering myself or others?

I don't know the exact suspension specs; I went to the dealer and said, "Make it like it came off of the assembly line."

I do definitely agree that they are a lot quieter and smoother than stock.

 

i was a little upset the first ride out,. but once they cycled a few times and broke in they became awesome. turn in is crisp. the first few hundred miles where spongy, but they are great now and wear waaay better

 

Well to be honest I bet their alignment isn't that great. Usually the dealership alignments just align for the "green zone". As far as PSI I prefer about 36F and 34R cold. When I hit the track I usually run about 39F and 37R cold and I actually have been running that on the road. It rides a little rougher but I prefer the handling and break away characteristics. To heat cycle well there is a couple ways. It is really hard to put enough heat into them to really wake these up on the street. I would go do a mountain run and hit the corners a little quicker than normal 2 or 3 times. Maybe do a local autoX which is nice and safe. I noticed after about 6-8 autoX runs they had probably 70% more grip than before.

One thing I think the Z1's have over these is the ability to heat up quicker. I think the RE01R hold the heat longer though and really shine once they get hot. Just get some heat in them or wait to really push for another 400-500 miles.

 

just got back from the track and the re-o1 r's at 40 psi hot were great. I have them in 265/35 on 18x9.5

 

Hard to find anything as good as the stock advans in the stock size thats not an R compound. The Suby guys have been complaining about the RE01Rs for a long time.

NT01s and Neova's are the hot ticket.

 

Thanks for the tip - I'll give this a shot.

I *knew* there had to be a reason why they felt like I got ripped off.

I really appreciate all of the advice!

BoostLover

 

You definitely have to run higher pressures in the RE01Rs compared to the stockers because the sidewalls are softer. For the track, I genereally start around 39f/36r cold. For the street, I run about ~37f/35r.

I have 3 track days and 6k miles on them (245/40/17 on stock wheels) and they still grip better than equally worn stockers.

As for your alignment, they could've jacked it up. Probably not enough camber up front.

 

You guys were all right - I took your 36F 34R (cold) recommendation and ran the living hell out of them. Something clicked right around 1500 miles and man, do they grip differently now!

They're still a little "softer" than I remember the Advans and they "talk" (i.e. howl) at the limits but they're freaking awesome nevertheless.

Especially stopping in a straight line. Car just stands on its nose before the ABS kicks in.

Thanks y'all!