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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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hey getsideways,what setup you runninwith that alignment
On my 8 i had JICs which im still in love with used a 255 ao32r 10k F 8k R STOCK sway bars,
2.8-front 1.5-rear 0 toe

My 9 rs using tein 10k all the way around 2.4- front 1.3 rear 0 toe progress rear sway set on middle setting , hoosier S compound for autox ao32r for lapping day
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by getsideways
On my 8 i had JICs which im still in love with used a 255 ao32r 10k F 8k R STOCK sway bars,
2.8-front 1.5-rear 0 toe

My 9 rs using tein 10k all the way around 2.4- front 1.3 rear 0 toe progress rear sway set on middle setting , hoosier S compound for autox ao32r for lapping day
how do you feel your handling was on your 8 with that setup,interesting the stock swaybar,thats usually one of the first mods people do,i run a 275 right now but if i change im going with the 255 r888 or the 275 nitto nto1,the r888 likes to be stretched,found out after i bought them,im on a 9.5 rim,thanks for your input,this is more what im looking for as my buddy and i have been debating this subject alot recently
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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I will add that what works (setup) for one course will need to be adjusted for another. Which course (all ??) were you having issues and which turn did you find the car getting loose on exit and describe loose (front pushing, rear coming around, all 4 sliding)? Are you monitoring tires temps? Were you just going in too hot or not being smooth on exit?

You have a good setup -- I would have run more negative camber in the rear and probably tried playing with the rear sway bar. On a small, tight course I like to add toe too ....Each driver has their own preference as well, so adjust accordingly.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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i never said i had problems with any thing,i just merely stated that my car gets loose form time to time,like i said in a previous post im just wondering what everyone is runnin,im nosey,i know there is not "one"perfect setup
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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I've got nearly the same setup. meullerized jics, 25mm rsb, -3/-1.8 + 0 toe, 255 NT01s. Fun and fast. It is much "looser" than stock for sure, which i like. I've considered toe-out in front but haven't tried yet. In the rain last year at infineon i went to the "middle" spot on the rsb and it was MUCH less tail happy. Good for rain.. but not nearly as fun.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LaminarFlow
I've got nearly the same setup. meullerized jics, 25mm rsb, -3/-1.8 + 0 toe, 255 NT01s. Fun and fast. It is much "looser" than stock for sure, which i like. I've considered toe-out in front but haven't tried yet. In the rain last year at infineon i went to the "middle" spot on the rsb and it was MUCH less tail happy. Good for rain.. but not nearly as fun.
i definately need more camber in the rear,is that the alignment that john gave you
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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A rear sway bar adjustment will do you wonders. I found that out the hard way or should I say the fun way when my rear kicked out during a during my warm-up lap barely pushing it. Reason being is that I had it set to full stiff (RobiSpec 4-way adj.) from previously running r-comps one track event and then running street tires another event with the same setting resulting in a tail happy Evo. Not fun on a high speed track, Buttonwillow Raceway...

Took a bit to figure it out from trying different tire pressures and then finally realizing I had the sway bar set too stiff...

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other then that check your tire pressure's too...

RobiSpec'd out Evo suspension wise...



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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingscot
how do you feel your handling was on your 8 with that setup,interesting the stock swaybar,thats usually one of the first mods people do,i run a 275 right now but if i change im going with the 255 r888 or the 275 nitto nto1,the r888 likes to be stretched,found out after i bought them,im on a 9.5 rim,thanks for your input,this is more what im looking for as my buddy and i have been debating this subject alot recently
Im sorta a believer in the stock swaybar i loved the way it felt very neutral very VERY predictable and stable almost always kept all 4 wheels on the ground honestly if my current car had not come with an aftermarket sway bar i might have kept it stock as i greatly enjoyed that and was still fast with it . the stock sway bar is decent unless your trying to 'tune' the suspensionto your individual taste but there are many other ways to do that as well ,,
I'm surprised you run yours on the stiff setting especially with those rear spring rates seems very aggressive but hey whatever works.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by o-townFLA
A rear sway bar adjustment will do you wonders. I found that out the hard way or should I say the fun way when my rear kicked out during a during my warm-up lap barely pushing it. Reason being is that I had it set to full stiff (RobiSpec 4-way adj.) from previously running r-comps one track event and then running street tires another event with the same setting resulting in a tail happy Evo. Not fun on a high speed track, Buttonwillow Raceway...

Took a bit to figure it out from trying different tire pressures and then finally realizing I had the sway bar set too stiff...

video footage...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tSHAm5gVWs


other then that check your tire pressure's too...

RobiSpec'd out Evo suspension wise...



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haha,i know because i was there on saturday with renzo and his pop,i helped jen put the tt sticker on your windshield,kevin,do you also run the front robispec bar matt?
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by getsideways
Im sorta a believer in the stock swaybar i loved the way it felt very neutral very VERY predictable and stable almost always kept all 4 wheels on the ground honestly if my current car had not come with an aftermarket sway bar i might have kept it stock as i greatly enjoyed that and was still fast with it . the stock sway bar is decent unless your trying to 'tune' the suspensionto your individual taste but there are many other ways to do that as well ,,
I'm surprised you run yours on the stiff setting especially with those rear spring rates seems very aggressive but hey whatever works.
thats the way my suspension guru set it up,i dont mind it loose to be honest,i am gonna make a few adjustments to my setup before my next outing though,you have to be way more precise with your inputs,ive only crossed myself up once and that was because i was on cold tires and i wasnt paying attention
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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i guess the track guys amongst us dont want to give away their secrets
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingscot
haha,i know because i was there on saturday with renzo and his pop,i helped jen put the tt sticker on your windshield,kevin,do you also run the front robispec bar matt?

lol thanks for the help on putting the decal on. It shows up really well in pics...!

But I still run the stock front sway bar....









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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
^ yup....we've got it all on EVO M.

Spring rate is dependent on tire compound and size....and really all of these variables are interlocked in one way or another and aspects of one may suck on another car. And the driver of course makes a difference.

We offer AST, KW, Ohlins, JRZ, Moton, and Bilstein. We try to match users with a suspension that fits their needs and budget and skill level (both in terms of driving and technical set-up)....what works for 1 person is rarely the same as what works for another.


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Originally Posted by o-townFLA
lol thanks for the help on putting the decal on. It shows up really well in pics...!

But I still run the stock front sway bar....









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cant wait to get my car back on the road,i was just lending a hand when needed,not one for standing around doing nothin,thats a great shot,looks like lost hill
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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^^^ Thats what everybody says and thinks, but its the last burm coming out of of "cotton corner"...
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by o-townFLA
^^^ Thats what everybody says and thinks, but its the last burm coming out of of "cotton corner"...
aha,yeah makes sense now,corners are similar with the way the elevation changes,do you run the kws with 8k f and 9k rear springs,noticed when i seen your car that u have the kmac plates,i am trying to get a set of those right now,renzos goin to pick them up at robi s,wasnt that cotton corner where u found out that your swaybar needed adjusted lol
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