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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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what are all you track guys using out there?what coilvers with what spring rates and your feelings on your set up,alignment settings would be helpful too,thanks in advance for sharing
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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First, how new are you to the sport? If new, I recommend tracking in stock form (well with proper brakes added) then upgrading other areas.

To answer your question: Bilstein HD struts, Swift Spec R springs, Swift Stabilizer bars. -1.5/-1.4 alignment, V700 tires. (Yes, those are not coilovers).
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
First, how new are you to the sport? If new, I recommend tracking in stock form (well with proper brakes added) then upgrading other areas.

To answer your question: Bilstein HD struts, Swift Spec R springs, Swift Stabilizer bars. -1.5/-1.4 alignment, V700 tires. (Yes, those are not coilovers).
ive been tracking for a long time,probably done 18 track events in the last two years with the evo and a track prepped mini,just wondering what everyones runnin
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Pretty much from mild to wild. My setup to 5k+ external res c/o's.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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^ yup....we've got it all on EVO M.

Spring rate is dependent on tire compound and size....and really all of these variables are interlocked in one way or another and aspects of one may suck on another car. And the driver of course makes a difference.

We offer AST, KW, Ohlins, JRZ, Moton, and Bilstein. We try to match users with a suspension that fits their needs and budget and skill level (both in terms of driving and technical set-up)....what works for 1 person is rarely the same as what works for another.


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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
^ yup....we've got it all on EVO M.

Spring rate is dependent on tire compound and size....and really all of these variables are interlocked in one way or another and aspects of one may suck on another car. And the driver of course makes a difference.

We offer AST, KW, Ohlins, JRZ, Moton, and Bilstein. We try to match users with a suspension that fits their needs and budget and skill level (both in terms of driving and technical set-up)....what works for 1 person is rarely the same as what works for another.


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true,i was interested in knowing if there is common ground as far as spring rates on track setups,i run 10k fr with 12k rear on jics which mueller set up for me with the progress 25mm bar on the rear set on full stiff,-3 and -1 camber zero toe and i get quite loose at corner exit,a freind runs stiff bars all round and less spring like 8kfr 7k r,same alignment numbers but his car is way more stable at high speed but gives up a little corner speed at slower speeds,wot u think
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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is this a dedicated track car or is it also a daily driver? because if it's the latter, i would strongly suggest not running 10k/12k rates on the streets

and it really depends on your budget...i have swift spec-r springs and i think they're amazing for how little you spend on them. but if you have deep pockets and don't mind splurging, getting a proper suspension tune by someone like robispec would help a lot

need some more info before i can really chip in on this
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd is Pink
is this a dedicated track car or is it also a daily driver? because if it's the latter, i would strongly suggest not running 10k/12k rates on the streets

and it really depends on your budget...i have swift spec-r springs and i think they're amazing for how little you spend on them. but if you have deep pockets and don't mind splurging, getting a proper suspension tune by someone like robispec would help a lot

need some more info before i can really chip in on this
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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true,i was interested in knowing if there is common ground as far as spring rates on track setups,i run 10k fr with 12k rear on jics which mueller set up for me with the progress 25mm bar on the rear set on full stiff,-3 and -1 camber zero toe and i get quite loose at corner exit,a freind runs stiff bars all round and less spring like 8kfr 7k r,same alignment numbers but his car is way more stable at high speed but gives up a little corner speed at slower speeds,wot u think
This sounds like a tire issue as well, what were you/he running? Remember the stiffer you run the spring, the more grip will be demanded on the tire.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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This sounds like a tire issue as well, what were you/he running? Remember the stiffer you run the spring, the more grip will be demanded on the tire.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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well it doesnt appear to be a tire issue maybe not an issue at all suspension tuning is all about trade offs , a little turn in here for a little loss of stability there , the only thing i will throw out there is slightly more rear camber i use 1.3-1.5 in the rear with 2.8 in the front very nuetral set up with very good turn in.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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well it doesnt appear to be a tire issue maybe not an issue at all suspension tuning is all about trade offs , a little turn in here for a little loss of stability there , the only thing i will throw out there is slightly more rear camber i use 1.3-1.5 in the rear with 2.8 in the front very nuetral set up with very good turn in.
your bang on there,last time i got an alignment i told him to stand the rears up a little,im going to go back to 1.5,but we are getting a little off topic here,i never said i had a problem,i just wanted to know what the other track monkeys are runnin,thanks for your input though
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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hey getsideways,what setup you runninwith that alignment
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Before messing with the alignment, try softening your rear bar if it's already at full stiff.

Oh and add CASTER.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
Before messing with the alignment, try softening your rear bar if it's already at full stiff.

Oh and add CASTER.

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thank you andrew,i am currently working on a set of kmacs as we speak,a friend is ordering them from robispec,im also going to try a couple different spring rates next time at the track
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