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Old May 17, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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hey i am curious can u mix the bilstein hd rears with the bilstein sport strut fronts with gtworx springs? thanks
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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Sport is the not offered. And the HD has no release date (at least not a solid one).

EDIT: My misconception since the Sports do not exist for us My brain has them in the same box.

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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Have to disagree. The HD and Sport are two different items. The HD's are designed as an upgrade over oe in handling but without sacrificing ride quality. They are not to be used with lowering springs.

The Sports are valved and designed a lot differently to reduce pitch/roll and can be used with springs and/or upgraded sway bars. I run the Sports on my car with H/R springs and it works great.

Mixing the two can be done, but don't expect balanced handling front/rear. The HD end will probably handle even more off tune because of the springs.

Much like tires, its best to match the same all around for top handling and predictability.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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BUT see the product notes. Be it HD or Sports. "Note: Front fitment. Heavy duty."

Fronts:
F4-VE3-B843-H0/1/2

Rears:
F4-BE5-B844-H0
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Neal, are you saying the Sports have a more agressive valving over HD?

Also Sports are OEM mr struts right?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Not MR struts - those are F4-VE3-A900-TO (front).
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Product notes for Sport..

For the enthusiast driver who demands superior handling, the Bilstein Sport shocks and struts deliver the highest levels of control. An excellent match for vehicles with lowering springs or upgraded anti-roll bars, the Sport Series shocks and struts perform under demanding conditions.

Product notes for HD...

For most vehicles including full-size sedans, SUVs and trucks, Bilstein performance shock absorbers and struts have been designed to provide improved handling and ride control without sacrificing comfort. Fade-free performance is achieved by using high gas pressure, monotube design with a large diameter shock body. The HD Series is ideal for heavy hauling and occasional off-road use.

The part numbers you mentioned are for the HD's, not Sport.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Do they even offer the Sports then? I am only aware of the HD for this platform.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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No, not showing Sports. Just an HD application.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Right, Bilstein HD is not Bilstein Sport....however there are no Bilstein Sports for EVO anyway so it's a moot point.


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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com
Right, Bilstein HD is not Bilstein Sport....however there are no Bilstein Sports for EVO anyway so it's a moot point.


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i was about to say lol

why is everyone buying up the HD's and recommending them when they arent supposed to be used with lowering springs
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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
BUT see the product notes. Be it HD or Sports. "Note: Front fitment. Heavy duty."

Fronts:
F4-VE3-B843-H0/1/2

Rears:
F4-BE5-B844-H0
and whats the difference between the h0, 1, and 2?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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I have talked at length with Bilstein (over various times while custom valving my struts). We have a sedan and the valving is what gives us a nice DD ride, and then a good setup on the track. Sports have firmer valving.

So it would be (firm to soft)

Bilstein Sports / OE KYB / Bilstein HD / Bilstein MR

The HDs work great on lowering springs. They all seem to say different things about the H0-2 versions. I guess any little change (bolt or bracket) means new part number. They also seem to count them as run groups. So H0 was last years. H1 was this years (few made), and H2 is the current run.

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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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i see bilstein shocks for sale on tire rack and funny so. are u saying they are no shocks availble for our cars?? no sports application?? i have a set of gtworx springs but i do not wnt to put the on the stock shocks. whats available i would love to use some bilsteins
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Didn't say there's nothing available. Just nothing in stock at this time. Only showing the HD application, no Sports for the EVO. At this time we do not have a sport based shock from anyone we carry available for that car.
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