different width wheels with same width tires
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different width wheels with same width tires
sorry if this is a weird question for you guys but I come from the vw world where this is fairly common
I know having different width wheels and tires messes up awd systems so people normally runs the same size wheels on all four corners
this also means that cars with 9's out back have some serious poke with 9s up front
could you run 8s up front and 9s out back with the same width tires to end up with the same contact patch all around and not detriment to the awd system.
What I'm talking about(flush out back, poke up front) and my car for example with 8s in front, 9s in back and 205/40s all around
I know having different width wheels and tires messes up awd systems so people normally runs the same size wheels on all four corners
this also means that cars with 9's out back have some serious poke with 9s up front
could you run 8s up front and 9s out back with the same width tires to end up with the same contact patch all around and not detriment to the awd system.
What I'm talking about(flush out back, poke up front) and my car for example with 8s in front, 9s in back and 205/40s all around
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The width of the wheel will impact the width of the contact patch, but the actual tire diamter will stay the same. This isn't the VW world though, we don't use words like poke. Also, why the hell do you want to use a 205 on an Evo? Stock width is 235. Also, don't do that stupid Euro stretch ****; buy a tire that actually fits the wheel.
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fyi poke referes to when your wheels do not fit flush with the fenders...they poke out
and I never said anything about running 205s on evos, that just happens to be a size that works for my car
obviously for an evo you would use 235/45s or 245/40s or whatever
and I never said anything about running 205s on evos, that just happens to be a size that works for my car
obviously for an evo you would use 235/45s or 245/40s or whatever
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Be careful when you mention anything having to do with the "s" word (stretch) or much of anything having to do with typical VW style around here, people seem to immediately take offense for some reason. Anyway, if you really want the big dish rear wheel look I'd suggest going with staggered offsets instead of staggered widths. Even though you're running the same size tire stretching it will reduce its overall diameter causing longevity issues with the Evo's AWD drivetrain. Some 3-piece wheels (ex: Work's) can also be had with different curved spokes allowing you to run a wheel that will clear the brakes in the front and since you don't need the same clearance have a bigger dish/lip in the rear which should also accomplish the look I think you're going for.
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the thing with the AWD system and wheels/tires are the tire circumference (distance around the outside of the tire). you're supposed to run the same wheel/tire combo to achieve the "perfect" tire circumference. if you put the same size tire on staggered width rims, the tire that is on the wider one (which will probably be stretched a little) will have a smaller circumference as the other wheels.
i run 18x9 +29 RGIIs with 255/35/18 and they're pretty flush. I would suggest running 18x9.5 with a low offset and you can do 245s that will be a little stretched. my friend has it and it looks great
of course, there are people who get away with running staggered width wheels and/or tires...but these are guys who race and don't do it on a daily basis. lol
i run 18x9 +29 RGIIs with 255/35/18 and they're pretty flush. I would suggest running 18x9.5 with a low offset and you can do 245s that will be a little stretched. my friend has it and it looks great
of course, there are people who get away with running staggered width wheels and/or tires...but these are guys who race and don't do it on a daily basis. lol
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I followed the link you posted and tirerack said that a dif as small as 2/32 in tire wear could have an impact on the vehicles awd system. That being said I suppose same size tires on dif width wheels would also be enough to have a negative impact on the car.
As for stretch it is functional for my car as it allows me to run the wheels I like and still be low. It is not ideal for handling but neither is having the control arms pointed at the sky. I don't road race or autocross my car so its not a concern.
Thanks for the help guys
As for stretch it is functional for my car as it allows me to run the wheels I like and still be low. It is not ideal for handling but neither is having the control arms pointed at the sky. I don't road race or autocross my car so its not a concern.
Thanks for the help guys
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Be careful when you mention anything having to do with the "s" word (stretch) or much of anything having to do with typical VW style around here, people seem to immediately take offense for some reason. Anyway, if you really want the big dish rear wheel look I'd suggest going with staggered offsets instead of staggered widths. Even though you're running the same size tire stretching it will reduce its overall diameter causing longevity issues with the Evo's AWD drivetrain. Some 3-piece wheels (ex: Work's) can also be had with different curved spokes allowing you to run a wheel that will clear the brakes in the front and since you don't need the same clearance have a bigger dish/lip in the rear which should also accomplish the look I think you're going for.
Either run some staggered offsets, use spacers up front, or do some fender rolling to make things fit.
You've got some safe options here.
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Spacers up front would actually create more poke, rolling the fenders certainly helps you not rub if you are low but you still need the right tire sizes and offsets
Running lower et wheels up front is one solution
What offsets are you guys running on your 9s and 9.5s to make them fit well?
Running lower et wheels up front is one solution
What offsets are you guys running on your 9s and 9.5s to make them fit well?