I just had some new front brake pads put in my EVO. This is the 2nd time I've had the front pads replaced, and my car has 13k miles on it. I've still got the stock Brembo rotors, but Ferodo DS2500 pads. I broke them in per the instructions that came with the pads, and now when I brake at low speed, hot or cold, the brakes are squeaking. Since the pads were installed, I've put maybe 300 miles on the car. The squeaking is without a doubt coming from the front.

I remember when I first got my car and up until the 1st brake pad replacement, I noticed the exact same squeaking but it was when braking in reverse only so I thought no big deal. Now I hear it at every traffic light when I stop.

I've got no idea what's wrong. Anyone have any ideas?

my sweek too since i got new ones installed, keep in mind i dont have an evo... but ever since i got new ones put on they always sweek untill the car is really warmed up... sorry i cant really help you... but maybe take it back to the shop and see if they can do something for it?

Hi, naucrx, some Qs...

1. How do you find the stopping power of the Ferodo 2500's?
2. did you reuse the shims that were on your old brembos? If so did you install them in the right orientation?
3. did you lube the top/bottom/back of the pads backing material with some grease?



Regards
J

1. The stopping power of the Ferodo 2500s are good when cold, and excellent when warm. I'm quite pleased with them with the exception of the loud squeaking.
2. & 3. I would probably guess that they reused the shims on my old brembos, and I would hope that they installed them correctly, and greased them up. But I'm not sure, I just dropped my car off at the shop one morning and picked it up after work the same day. The shop is very trustworthy, so if there's a problem I wouldn't mind too much having to take it back to have it corrected.

Thanks

Doug, they may not have reused the shims. Its a common mistake that is made when moving to aftermarket pads. The shims are stuck on to the back of the brembo pad and are stubborn to remove... it sounds like you are running without shims.. have it checked by them.

or check it yourself : http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_...;threadid=8388

Well, Jemm, once again you've got the info I need.

I talked to the tech who did my brakes and he confirmed that the shims were not reused with the Ferodo pads. He said he had such a hard time removing them that he said they were too mangled to reuse.

I ordered some shims from the dealer for like $27 and they're going to install them for me when they come in.

Thanks again Jemm, you rock!

bigger brakes = squeak...its normal...

The dealer was supposed to tell you this and it was also supposed to be told to you in a video...but you know how some dealerships are...

It's not a high pitch squeak like pads to rotors, it's a low deep resonating squeak, almost vibrating the car a bit. I know what the different pads sound like when they squeak and this is nothing like that sound. It only occurs when I brake at about 20% pedal force, and only in the range of ~5mph until I'm stopped. The shims get reinstalled next week, so we'll see. I'll post an update next week.

so it made more of a grinding sound? If so that is pretty normal with uprated pads Although you say you get vibration? If so I'd think shims for sure.. good luck

No prob, glad to help. Make sure they install the shims as per the directional arrows. Also make sure they sparingly lube the back,top, bottom of the pads with some high temp grease, eg. Permatex Copper grease as per the above diagram.

With time Naucrx, you will feel comfortable in changing your own pads.... you know what they say, if you want to make sure the job is done well... do it yourself!

*Update*

Okay, the dealership tech that did my brakes said that the shims were really stuck to the pads and he ruined them when he tried to remove them to reuse.

The Ferodo DS2500 pads apparently do not come with these plastic shims. I searched everywhere for shims this last Saturday, and no one sells them separately. I hoped I could buy a cheap set of pads and use the shims but being that the EVO is still new, no one sells brake pads for our cars except the dealership. I had hoped to be able to find the shim material somewhere instead, but no one carried that either. I even went to some hardware stores around town in hopes of finding something I could use, but I found nothing.

My options as of now are:
1) Buy new Brembo pads from the dealership for $220 and use the shims off of those. (Btw, I'm broke as f*** right now)
OR
2) Drive around with squeaking brakes that **** me the F*** off.



I feel like driving my car into a wall and putting it out of its misery.

Hi, sorry for the late reply but i am not in Jamaica at this time... so internet access is hard to come by..

THe shims are not plastic, they are a thin metal that helps to form a barrier for the small vibrations that lead to noise... Plastic would melt very quickly at those temps. When you take the shims off, they will be rolled like dough, simply put them between 2 heavy pieces of board or something to straighten them. THey are not that hard to come off...

What you can do is:
(a) get some old pads from someone here...and take off the shims
(b) Apply a thing layer of high temp silicone (eg. Permatex Copper silicone) to the backing plate at the area where the pistons contact.

GET A BUDDY AND DIY .... f' off with those people... follow my guide (see link above) and you can DIY ... its easy dude.

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