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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:41 AM
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hubcentric spacers rings

yo guys I'm replacing all 4 rotors and can't remove rings that came with spacers.my question is can I just slap spacers back on my rotors without rings ?thanks.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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You need to use the rings when running aftermarket wheels / spacers to match the hub to the wheel / spacer

Buy the alum rings vs the composite plastic. Use a bit of lube on them to prevent seizure
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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I'm on stock enkeis,when I bought spacers, rings came together.I put them on thinking it's a must.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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The stock wheels have a hub bore of 67.1mm
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Old May 13, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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u will need for aftermarket wheel if bore size is differ
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Old May 16, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by boss8311
u will need for aftermarket wheel if bore size is differ
Yep. This guy is correct.
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Old May 18, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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You're responding to someone who just made a flurry of near-worthless posts to get into the marketplace.

The thread-starter appears to have plain disk-type spacers behind OE wheels. This, in general, is a bad idea, because plain disk-type spacers have nothing to center the wheel and you really want to be hubcentric when you have shank-type lug-nuts. In contrast to what has been said above, when you switch to aftermarket wheels, which almost always use conical or "tuner-style" lugs, then being hubcentric is no longer critical, because the lugs will keep the wheel centered.

If my guess about the type of spacers that the thread-starter has is incorrect, please ignore this part. But still listen to the general point that being firmly hubcentric is critical with shank-style lugs. With the OE wheels, only use spacers with a centering lip built in.

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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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thanks for knowledgeable explanation Iowa.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Did I guess correctly? You had plain-disk spacers, so you weren't firmly hubcentric?

(I ask mostly to check whether my ability to read between the lines on forums has any accuracy. I've had my doubts lately.)

Oh, and you're quite welcome.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
when you switch to aftermarket wheels, which almost always use conical or "tuner-style" lugs, then being hubcentric is no longer critical, because the lugs will keep the wheel centered.
Will have to respectfully disagree with that statement. Most OEM wheels are hub piloted vs stud piloted wheels. The W/T load was designed to carried by the hub not the studs!!!

Make sure all of you use the hubcentric rings whenever running aftermarket wheels

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"Hubcentric" is another term that is often not mentioned or is misunderstood. A hubcentric wheel is a wheel designed with a centerbore opening to match the exact diameter of the hub of a specific vehicle. The importance is that the weight bearing of the wheel, in reference to the vehicle, is accomplished by the hub and centerbore mating to an exact fit. The lug nuts/bolts' only purpose is to affix the wheel to the mounting surface, not to bear the weight of the vehicle. Often wheels that are not hubcentric create driveability problems--shimmy, vibration, and erratic tracking. Many quality manufacturers design their wheels to be versatile by providing hubcentric centering rings that snap into place inside the wheel, to make the wheel hubcentric. This is an important safety issue--hubcentricity is highly recommended.

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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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So, if I'm understanding the part that you disagree with, you're saying that the weight of the car - at least when running aftermarket wheels - is sitting on whatever goes into the centerbore of the wheel. Is that correct?
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa999
So, if I'm understanding the part that you disagree with, you're saying that the weight of the car - at least when running aftermarket wheels - is sitting on whatever goes into the centerbore of the wheel. Is that correct?
Yes (aftermarket or OEM wheels)

The wheel hub bore was designed to load up the hub. You can not run a wheel w/a gap between the wheel hub bore & the hub.

Bottom line: Dont load up the studs in the vertical plane

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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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Iowa,i had spacers with the ring in the center.you can pull out the ring if you want and put the spacer on without it.when i was changing rotors i removed spacers but rings were stuck on the hub.i tried to remove them but i couldn't so i just chiseled them off.and now i put spacers only without rings.i run stock enkeis.sorry if my explanation confuses forum members cause English is my second language.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:50 PM
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Thanks for the reply, egis, and I apologize for not being in the mood for this, MP, but I'm not.
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