Gurus and track monkeys: help needed with ideal suspension setup.
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Well, actually the Ohlins ride better than stock and should be a nice mix of comfort and handling benefit from stock. Is it going to be the fastest setup out there? No, but your a novice like me and there is far more to be gained with driving. I run a RRE aggressive road-racing setup and there is a huge trade-off in street-ride. But, I really don't see the sense in spending $2000 dollars unless I want to make a huge improvement in handling because the stock car handle well to begin with. Although I would be curious to see how well the Ohlins ride with a set of stiff springs.
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Well, actually the Ohlins ride better than stock and should be a nice mix of comfort and handling benefit from stock. Is it going to be the fastest setup out there? No, but your a novice like me and there is far more to be gained with driving. I run a RRE aggressive road-racing setup and there is a huge trade-off in street-ride. But, I really don't see the sense in spending $2000 dollars unless I want to make a huge improvement in handling because the stock car handle well to begin with. Although I would be curious to see how well the Ohlins ride with a set of stiff springs.
BTW, the Ohlins cost $2490, but that included two sets of springs: The standard Ohlins and the custom Eibachs. The camber plates were two bills more. The rear sway bar was $180. $2880 total. Ouch!
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I do not understand why everyone feels they must go with the setups the rest of the fastest evos use. sure its proven, but if you want to be FASTER than them, someone should either improve drastically on the existing JIC platform or work on an entirely new platform altogether. I think there would be more of a competition if people in the US knew how to tune Japanese coilovers better. The CyberEvo is running a custom TEIN setup and clocked a track record on American soil (Buttonwillow) - (NOT sure why no one talks about this),
so its not like other JDM coilovers are NOT a viable option. Economically speaking this is how the Japanese swept the electronics market in the 1980s... IMPROVEMENT.
Its just finding the right equipment, right tuner, and right driver.
so its not like other JDM coilovers are NOT a viable option. Economically speaking this is how the Japanese swept the electronics market in the 1980s... IMPROVEMENT.
Its just finding the right equipment, right tuner, and right driver.
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Originally Posted by Smogrunner
According to Jason Whipple, it will still be a little soft even with the springs (i.e. lean a bit, but will give more traction nontheless). However, he says with what I have, it should have awesome grip around rougher corners. Jason also said he thinks it will ride considerably better than stock on the street in terms of comfort. But, like you, comfort is not my primary concern. We'll see... I can't wait.
BTW, the Ohlins cost $2490, but that included two sets of springs: The standard Ohlins and the custom Eibachs. The camber plates were two bills more. The rear sway bar was $180. $2880 total. Ouch!
BTW, the Ohlins cost $2490, but that included two sets of springs: The standard Ohlins and the custom Eibachs. The camber plates were two bills more. The rear sway bar was $180. $2880 total. Ouch!
I'm curious as to what people who have the Ohlin's think about the ride versus stock. Also - and this might sound like a strange question, but do they squeek or make other noises?
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I recently drove Chronohunter's car. It had stiffer springs compared to what Smogrunner has and yet it was still more comfortable than my stock 03 Evo. They definitely removed a lot of the harshness from the ride.
I have been lusting after a set ever since!
I have been lusting after a set ever since!
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are the JIC's rebuildable?
if so I am contemplating either esnding my old JIC's for rebuild and get new springs for it at RRE ..... or... just get a new set of Ohlins from work or vishnu.
Seems the Ohlins are nice and comfy for street ride but has anyone done hotlaps at the track with them.. what spring rates? how were they?
tia,
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if so I am contemplating either esnding my old JIC's for rebuild and get new springs for it at RRE ..... or... just get a new set of Ohlins from work or vishnu.
Seems the Ohlins are nice and comfy for street ride but has anyone done hotlaps at the track with them.. what spring rates? how were they?
tia,
nils
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Also, if sticking with the RPF1 17x8.5, why not the +30 instead of the +40 offset?
Doesn't the 10 mm less positive offset move the wheel 10mm further outboard away from the suspension?
It should result in a slightly wider stance, more room for wheel spokes to clear the calipers. So maybe the reason not to go +30 is the tire stick out too far and cause a rubbing issue?
(These questions are all based on a 2005 stock suspension)
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Curious as to the reason that John Mueller and Robi preferred 17x8.5 +40 vs 17x9 +35 ?
Also, if sticking with the RPF1 17x8.5, why not the +30 instead of the +40 offset?
Doesn't the 10 mm less positive offset move the wheel 10mm further outboard away from the suspension?
It should result in a slightly wider stance, more room for wheel spokes to clear the calipers. So maybe the reason not to go +30 is the tire stick out too far and cause a rubbing issue?
(These questions are all based on a 2005 stock suspension)
Also, if sticking with the RPF1 17x8.5, why not the +30 instead of the +40 offset?
Doesn't the 10 mm less positive offset move the wheel 10mm further outboard away from the suspension?
It should result in a slightly wider stance, more room for wheel spokes to clear the calipers. So maybe the reason not to go +30 is the tire stick out too far and cause a rubbing issue?
(These questions are all based on a 2005 stock suspension)
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