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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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I wouldn't really consider a cone filter stock intake, that would add power over stock. But given the mods great numbers still.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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The problem is not the filter it is the rippled pipe which is killing my top end a bit. Plus the fact its getting hot without a shield. Well yea this is on pump and I made more torque than you. If I turn the wick up to 31 like you have and add e85 should make some impressive numbers I might say
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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If you didn't touch your boost at all like you claim you are already at 28+ psi, not 26 like you say. DG had already posted the boost plot for your car, just because your gauge says 26 doesn't mean that's what you actually were tuned at, your car will hit higher boost in a 4th gear pull.

Honestly you didn't make anymore torque than I. I hit 400+ on the dynojet when i went there.

I think you really need to understand that your car is probably running on the ragged edge as far as tunes go. You realize that you are the one of the only people in the country that has posted running anything above like 25-26 on 93 octane. Most people wont run the boost you do unless they are on race gas, meth or e85. Your car even if it does make better power than most, is not some act of god man. If you switched to race gas or meth or something you would probably not get much more out of your tune, it would just make it safe.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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My tuner can post whatever u like....Im safe as hell brother! My a/f is like 11.3-11.4 and no knock whatsoever! If you were here I would so run you....I guess your another forum guru. How many times must we explain the boost was never touched! I have the aem tru boost and it is a pain in the *** to adjust trust me no one touched it we don't even know how to mess with it hhaha...I will prove you wrong when I get my new mods and retune. As for now your numbers are almost beat on pump la la la
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by XEVOX08
My tuner can post whatever u like....Im safe as hell brother! My a/f is like 11.3-11.4 and no knock whatsoever! If you were here I would so run you....I guess your another forum guru. How many times must we explain the boost was never touched! I have the aem tru boost and it is a pain in the *** to adjust trust me no one touched it we don't even know how to mess with it hhaha...I will prove you wrong when I get my new mods and retune. As for now your numbers are almost beat on pump la la la
I have asked for the boost plot 3 times now, post up the one from the dyno please. The DG one showed over 28psi.

I have never said you aren't making what you show. I am going off more than just my numbers, I look at a lot of dyno charts.

I am not worried about my numbers and I am by no means a guru. There are tons more people on this board that know more than I. I have tried to say you have good numbers, but I am also saying that you are running close to the edge. You might not be knocking and afr's may be good but you are taking out the advantage or running a higher octane fuel by running that extreme on your setup.

My numbers are perfectly in line with what tons of other evo's have made at several of my local tuners and many other reputable tuners of Evo X's on E85 like GST and AMS. So say what you will.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by XEVOX08
My tuner can post whatever u like....Im safe as hell brother! My a/f is like 11.3-11.4 and no knock whatsoever! If you were here I would so run you....I guess your another forum guru. How many times must we explain the boost was never touched! I have the aem tru boost and it is a pain in the *** to adjust trust me no one touched it we don't even know how to mess with it hhaha...I will prove you wrong when I get my new mods and retune. As for now your numbers are almost beat on pump la la la
Hi Jimmy,

I'm no longer going to take the time and energy to answer the -"that's impossible, how did you do it man??"- questions being posted in an effort to discredit your results.

-Fact-- No one can argue with uncorrected dynojet output.
-Fact-- Similar results will be released with X's having similar mods
-Fact-- We still have yet to adjust your boost
-Fact-- This is nowhere near what I would consider a "ragged edge tune"--> Wait till we do, then we'll see the frowns turned around??


Enjoy your car and don't let 'the great dyno debate' get to you. As I mentioned before, now that your car 'feels like an evo' you should concentrate more on the driving experience you paid the dealer for in the first place.

Positive karma for 2010--- Spread the word!
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Fact - I didn't argue with your tune or numbers, I implied that I would not run a car like this on 93 octane and many would agree. I believe that you know what you are doing and believe the afr's are fine and the car isn't knocking.

Fact - You still haven't posted a boost plot...that is really all I want to see.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
Fact - I didn't argue with your tune or numbers, I implied that I would not run a car like this on 93 octane and many would agree. I believe that you know what you are doing and believe the afr's are fine and the car isn't knocking.

Fact - You still haven't posted a boost plot...that is really all I want to see.
My friend me and jimmy are very good friends and i have driven his car more then he has with the new tune...lol...But i can ensure u that the boost is on 26 psi untouched from the other shoemaker tune...Also 26 psi is perfect for his setup every car is different some cars like more timing and others like more boost .I love how people on this form hate when they see someone make great numbers on the dyno and happy when they don't..Now u also said it's on the raged edge i can bet anything on it that it's not it has more room on the tables but urkel felt more comfortable after jimmy gets his other supporting mods as far as i can tell 31 psi with e 85 this car is gonna be a monster ...ps. i told u this car is a freak..

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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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My tuner and I will not disclose any data reason being you will all become copycats haha I will be making some videos this weekend for everyones pleasure Oh erk get me some stickers brother! lol
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IDRINKV8'S
My friend my and jimmy are very good friends and i have driven his car more then he has with the new tune...lol...But i can ensure u that the boost is on 26 psi untouched from the other shoemaker tune...Also 26 psi is perfect for his setup every car is different some cars like more timing and others like more boost his likes boost.I love how people on this form hate when they see someone great numbers on the dyno and happy when they don't..Now u also said it's on the raged edge i can bet anything on it that it's not it has more room on the tables but urkel felt more comfortable after jimmy gets his other supporting mods as far as i can tell 31 psi with e 85 this car is gonna be a monster ...ps. i told u this car is a freak..
I don't doubt that it reads 26psi upon certain street driving. However on a typical 4th gear pull it will read higher, mine usually doesn't show 31psi on the street unless I am low rpm 4th gear.

I only bring this up because he made the comment on how his torque is better than mine. The fact remains that our cars(Evos) make torque from peak boost. I don't doubt his numbers or torque but I do doubt his claims of 26psi, that is the only unbelievable thing in my eyes.

And I bring this up because you said boost hasn't changed from DG's tune and they posted 28-29psi which makes sense.

I guess I should correct my statement of ragged edge, what I was trying to say by that is that you haven't got a lot left in the tune or you can't make any power over what you have safely (unless a higher octane is introduced and more timing can be used). I know my tuner never tunes a car to its max because its usually not worth the extra power.

And really his car made no more power over DG's tune so I am not sure why it feels too much better (sure the torque will feel better, but even when I gained over 75wtq from going e85 my car didn't feel super duper better). The torque spike is obviously higher now since he gained so much torque, but perhaps that was from better mivec tuning, who knows. You two guys need to learn that people want to understand what they are reading and that they are not really happy or unhappy from results. I congratulated him on his power and am glad he is happy, I just like to examine and compare results as do many others.

I just find it funny that you guys think no one else can be right but you.

All i wanted out of this thread was a boost plot...thats it.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by XEVOX08
My tuner and I will not disclose any data reason being you will all become copycats haha I will be making some videos this weekend for everyones pleasure Oh erk get me some stickers brother! lol
So no boost plot from you dyno runs? It should be pretty easy to overlay the boost graph onto your existing power graph for your tuner.

Not sure how people can copy anything off that.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by murlo26
So no boost plot from you dyno runs? It should be pretty easy to overlay the boost graph onto your existing power graph for your tuner.

Not sure how people can copy anything off that.
Of course the boost is gonna be higher in 4th gear due to more load thanks for that genies ..lol...It only goes to 27 psi and then falls to 19psi but never spikes to 29 psi that's way to much.Jimmy picked up 5 whp and 30 pounds of tq over the other jollopy tune if u think that's not a big improvement then i don't know. Also look at this graph how hard it hit's compared to the other tune and spools so much harder this thing on the street moves..
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Whatever it may be I wasn't the tuner. If he doesn't know mivec then how is he in this business? Careless tunes and ****ty attitudes! You guys are just looking at peak numbers but don't understand how the car feels on the street! My powerband is insane now! ofcourse dg made the power they did my a/f was way off and it was knocking hahah my car is richer now and made more power and idles awesome!

I'm not on anyones side here just going by my experience with the way the car feels. Erk has been a good man so far and will continue to be by his side because we both like the jersey shore show hahah jk Funny you were on a dynodynamics also who knows if you were lied to also.

My car has never hit 29psi street or dyno...On the dyno my boost has never been touched one bit. I don't want to argue with you because I'm very stubborn like you Bottom line I made the power I did the car drives awesome and I'm happy. Going for the stock turbo record in the next few months
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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We are not talking about what my car hits on the street. We are talking about on the dyno my car never hits 28-29 like you say! On the street maybe might hit 28 for like a second. I can make a video and show you no problem. Even if it is the claimed 28psi your still 3psi more than me
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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xevox08, forget what other people say man, as long as u happy with ur ride, that is important.
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