Top Level has a lot to 'Torque' about for 2010!!!
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To late murlo26 has the record already..lol..Murlo he's right forget about peak numbers this car is a beast on the street.Only one car that dg motors tuned ran 1 great number at the track the rest were slow with crapy trap speed..Urkels tunes are proven street,track and dyno case closed...
Of course the boost is gonna be higher in 4th gear due to more load thanks for that genies ..lol...It only goes to 27 psi and then falls to 19psi but never spikes to 29 psi that's way to much.Jimmy picked up 5 whp and 30 pounds of tq over the other jollopy tune if u think that's not a big improvement then i don't know. Also look at this graph how hard it hit's compared to the other tune and spools so much harder this thing on the street moves..
When you say I am running 31, that is on the dyno in 4th. I just want him to realize his boost is higher than 26psi to make 404wtq.
I never said his tune wasn't better, cars usually benefit from retunes regardless and it looks like this tuner knows his stuff.
I won't say any more since it looks like a boost plot won't be provided.
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Thats all I am trying to say though, I know boost will be higher, thats why I am asking
When you say I am running 31, that is on the dyno in 4th. I just want him to realize his boost is higher than 26psi to make 404wtq.
I never said his tune wasn't better, cars usually benefit from retunes regardless and it looks like this tuner knows his stuff.
I won't say any more since it looks like a boost plot won't be provided.
When you say I am running 31, that is on the dyno in 4th. I just want him to realize his boost is higher than 26psi to make 404wtq.
I never said his tune wasn't better, cars usually benefit from retunes regardless and it looks like this tuner knows his stuff.
I won't say any more since it looks like a boost plot won't be provided.
The only time you will make more torque than horsepower, well most of the time, is when you are overspinning something. If you overspin a turbo, you will make more torque than horsepower because of the initial torque spike / peak boost. For example : If you tune a stock turbo (which is TINY) and throw 32psi at it, your overspinning the wheel, pushing it faster than it can go. This will cause an increase of torque when you hit the overspinning boost level, which in that case would be 32psi... Perfect example is I made 480wtq and only 430whp at 32psi on my stock turbo setup... Given, I only made 480wtq for the initial torque spike and then dropped pretty quickly / steadily to redline, the car was amazingly fun on the street! But that is why you only see Stock Turbo's that are anywhere from 28psi and up making more torque than horsepower on Evo's... Hell, even 2.3l Evo's and 35r's at boost levels of 35psi-40psi still dont make more tq than hp, although its very close to an even hp:tq (ie. 500whp,500wtq), because the turbo has yet to be overspun... Sorry if the terminoligy sucked, Im drunk right now and just drawing blanks...
I have never seen a turbo wheel pushed faster than it can go at only 26psi... I know you said that you only run 26psi and it was untouched, what Murlo was trying to explain and point out, was on the boost plot of your dyno run at DG Motors, it showed you were running 28psi on the dyno plot, as apposed to your gauge which may have read 26psi...
Dont take it as Im taking anything away from you, you made great power for your setup! I too wouldnt mind seeing the Boost Plot (it doesnt give away your tune or anything, so I dont know why you would want to disclose it...).
Erk, you have a pm! E-spec for Tuning President!
Dan
I have never seen a turbo wheel pushed faster than it can go at only 26psi... I know you said that you only run 26psi and it was untouched, what Murlo was trying to explain and point out, was on the boost plot of your dyno run at DG Motors, it showed you were running 28psi on the dyno plot, as apposed to your gauge which may have read 26psi...
Dont take it as Im taking anything away from you, you made great power for your setup! I too wouldnt mind seeing the Boost Plot (it doesnt give away your tune or anything, so I dont know why you would want to disclose it...).
Erk, you have a pm! E-spec for Tuning President!
Dan
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The only time you will make more torque than horsepower, well most of the time, is when you are overspinning something. If you overspin a turbo, you will make more torque than horsepower because of the initial torque spike / peak boost. For example : If you tune a stock turbo (which is TINY) and throw 32psi at it, your overspinning the wheel, pushing it faster than it can go. This will cause an increase of torque when you hit the overspinning boost level, which in that case would be 32psi... Perfect example is I made 480wtq and only 430whp at 32psi on my stock turbo setup... Given, I only made 480wtq for the initial torque spike and then dropped pretty quickly / steadily to redline, the car was amazingly fun on the street! But that is why you only see Stock Turbo's that are anywhere from 28psi and up making more torque than horsepower on Evo's... Hell, even 2.3l Evo's and 35r's at boost levels of 35psi-40psi still dont make more tq than hp, although its very close to an even hp:tq (ie. 500whp,500wtq), because the turbo has yet to be overspun... Sorry if the terminoligy sucked, Im drunk right now and just drawing blanks...
I have never seen a turbo wheel pushed faster than it can go at only 26psi... I know you said that you only run 26psi and it was untouched, what Murlo was trying to explain and point out, was on the boost plot of your dyno run at DG Motors, it showed you were running 28psi on the dyno plot, as apposed to your gauge which may have read 26psi...
Dont take it as Im taking anything away from you, you made great power for your setup! I too wouldnt mind seeing the Boost Plot (it doesnt give away your tune or anything, so I dont know why you would want to disclose it...).
Erk, you have a pm! E-spec for Tuning President!
Dan
I have never seen a turbo wheel pushed faster than it can go at only 26psi... I know you said that you only run 26psi and it was untouched, what Murlo was trying to explain and point out, was on the boost plot of your dyno run at DG Motors, it showed you were running 28psi on the dyno plot, as apposed to your gauge which may have read 26psi...
Dont take it as Im taking anything away from you, you made great power for your setup! I too wouldnt mind seeing the Boost Plot (it doesnt give away your tune or anything, so I dont know why you would want to disclose it...).
Erk, you have a pm! E-spec for Tuning President!
Dan
Here we go again.
