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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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BBX Lite on E85 and 93 oct-

We just finished a BBX lite build for one of our good clients-

The car originally came to us for a map switch tune on 93 and E85 on the stock turbo-

Shortly after he decided he wanted more power-

The parts that were changed were:

CBRD BBX Lite
Full Race manifold (very nice- even though we like our own ahahah- have to tease Geoff a little)


His other mods are:

ETS IC pipes and Intake
3 port EBCS (the only way we will tune a X)
turboback exhaust
FIC 1100cc Injectors


This car is a road race car so we went very conservative on tuning for longevity purposes- temps were 86-88 degrees and 38% humidity during both sets of tunes-

Here is the 93 octane BBX Lite (solid lines) versus stock turbo on 93



And here is the E85 tune-

94% IDC at 25.2 psi at 7200 rpm--- so we didnt want to push any harder- plus- nice and reliable-



you can see from the charts that at redline the car is up a solid 70whp and 70 wtq on both fuels over the stock turbo-

nice gains and a nice broad power curve--

Cheers

CB
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Ugh, I really wish my IT department wasn't having issues with the network so I could see the charts!
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Great #'s this sort of set up its what Im looking for, is this an MR by chance I only ask cause I have one and this would be awsome on a MR! just got to save some mula!!!!!!
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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So what's the difference between the bbk light and bbx light.

Disregard...I just read the thread topic. Sorry

Last edited by 304MR; Aug 17, 2011 at 02:03 PM. Reason: im a tard
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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no this is not an MR-

but I will be doing an MR in about 1.5 weeks- with our FMIC/Manifold/BBX Lite-

Ill have to pull some MR charts for you!

the BBX Lite is a very nice turbo- solid response and good gains- it is the turbo I had on my GSR!

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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 304MR
So what's the difference between the bbk light and bbx light.
BBK is our evo IX derivative-

it is a reverse rotation turbo with a 49 lbs min compressor wheel and upgraded turbine-

the evo X BBX turbos (lite and full) are non reverse rotation and are 52 lbs min and 57 lbs min respectively-

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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Looks like its soon time for me to make the switch Chad. Nice results
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Badass! No question, if I started over with my X on a stock motor, I'd go this route. Badass powerband on a simple setup that should last forever!

You mentioned road racing, what are you using for a fuel system setup?
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Question for CBRD is this on the stock fuel pump, I didn't see it listed on the mods.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Ugh, I really wish my IT department wasn't having issues with the network so I could see the charts!
Need a new IT Department :-)
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scheides
Badass! No question, if I started over with my X on a stock motor, I'd go this route. Badass powerband on a simple setup that should last forever!

You mentioned road racing, what are you using for a fuel system setup?
why not go w/ the full again?


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Question for CBRD is this on the stock fuel pump, I didn't see it listed on the mods.
+1 ?
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by scheides
Badass! No question, if I started over with my X on a stock motor, I'd go this route. Badass powerband on a simple setup that should last forever!

You mentioned road racing, what are you using for a fuel system setup?
I like "last forever" as i hope my evo does too. Nice set up way to hit the 400 hp barrier. I'm hoping to do the same but with a stock turbo with a few more mods.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The_X_Effect
I like "last forever" as i hope my evo does too. Nice set up way to hit the 400 hp barrier. I'm hoping to do the same but with a stock turbo with a few more mods.
As for the fuel pump- I cant remember what he has- as far as the upgrade- I didnt see the engine compartment filter asssembly from UR-

As for the Lite VS Full-

the full is a pretty large turbo (57ish lbs min) so I really recommend it for people running 27+ psi- whereas the Lite works great in the 24-28 psi range (makes massive torque around 30)...

The Lite is my personal preference (I had about 9-10 different turbos on my evo X GSR )

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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I'd really like a bbx lite. One day it will happen.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jyamona
why not go w/ the full again?

Oh I just like the simplicity of the setup here. My BBX has always urged me to push the car and well..now I have a built engine I'm SUPER happy with my BBX setup now but this kind of power on such a simple setup is always amazing to me.

Basically I was super happy with my BBX on stock manifold and stock cams, but then once I put on MAP's tubular there was just a *little* missing in the 3500-rpm range. I didn't care because the car was fun as hell up top! I didn't realize how much I missed it until I had the car back together with the ported head and kelford cams, they gave me back the low-end and then-some! So like I said I'm super happy with my current setup but if I were to stick with a stock longblock I'd simply do the BBX Lite with E85, exactly the setup presented here. Prolly could use a little more boost up top though
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