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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Just curious, did you mean ARP headstuds or did you actually drop the pan and do the rod bolts?
Just had the ARP Headstuds in
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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awesome numbers..you guys just dont understand how low this dyno reads.. rallinspired you are right about the know it all's!! the dyno dynamics dyno is considered "heartbreaker dyno" well i read almost 40 hp lower on rallinspired mustang dyno..plus everyone knows stock block on evo x can only handle so much before it goes boooooom!!! hey maybe you should dyno on a dynapack or dynojet and put a super duper mega awesome redonkulous 500hp!!! then everyone will be like ahh dude gnarly your number are awesome..pendejos...
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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stock bottom end id rather be safe then sorry
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Nice job, bet it's real fun!
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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If he's on a stock clutch and a stock bottom end why are you guys criticizing his restraint? He's making pretty good number and the torque curve looks good.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Holy baby j... I really didn't paid to some parts of the thread. Lol... Numbers are pretty low though. On 93 pump I was at 503awhp 422tq when I had my JB FPBlack. Stock exhaust manifold by the way and 1000cc injectors. Car never had any problem what so ever, and never blew up. Still up and running too. I guess it's just a super conservative tune...
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Posts like this are why everyone needs:
Relative D (patent pending) not to be confused with standard %

Some people are all about BIG numbers. Hows this for ya: 2 cars both stock
Car 1: 250whp
Car 2: 200whp

Both cars get same mods, different tunes:
Car 1: 350whp
Car 2: 300whp
Notice they GAINED the same WHP number (as though that matters)
Guess who's got MORE power (hint hint, not Car 1)

Car 1: (350-250)/350 = 28.57% improvement
Car 2: (300-200)/300 = 33.33% improvement

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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Numbers are pretty low though. On 93 pump I was at 503awhp 422tq when I had my JB FPBlack. Stock exhaust manifold by the way and 1000cc injectors

You are running totally different fuel (not limited by your injectors), on a totally different dyno, on the opposite coast of America, with a different tuner, a different car, and different parts.

Now. Why are you making that comparison again?

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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
Posts like this are why everyone needs:
Relative D (patent pending) not to be confused with standard %

Some people are all about BIG numbers. Hows this for ya: 2 cars both stock
Car 1: 250whp
Car 2: 200whp

Both cars get same mods, different tunes:
Car 1: 350whp
Car 2: 300whp
Notice they GAINED the same WHP number (as though that matters)
Guess who's got MORE power (hint hint, not Car 1)

Car 1: (350-250)/350 = 28.57% improvement
Car 2: (300-200)/300 = 33.33% improvement
??? Okaaay... Keep on typing on...

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You are running totally different fuel (not limited by your injectors), on a totally different dyno, on the opposite coast of America, with a different tuner, a different car, and different parts.

Now. Why are you making that comparison again?

I was just wondering why such low numbers on e85... I know of someone with stock bottom end on 93 pump still making more power than him on a conservative tune(same car, turbo, no cams, but w/e... I was under the impression that one makes more power on e85. I'm no tuner so f**k it w/e... No need to get those panties in a bunch. As long as the man is happy.

Back on topic:
OP good numbers and enjoy.

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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I was just wondering why such low numbers on e85... I know of someone with stock bottom end on 93 pump still making more power than him on a conservative tune(same car, turbo, no cams, but w/e... I was under the impression that one makes more power on e85. I'm no tuner so f**k it w/e... No need to get those panties in a bunch. As long as the man is happy.

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AGAIN, totally different fuel (not limited by your injectors), on a totally different dyno, on the opposite coast of America, with a different tuner, a different car, and different parts.

What part of those points don't you understand? Specifically look at point #1. Did you know that 1kcc injectors max out around 400 whp on a proper mustang dyno, on E85? Hey look the OP has 1kcc injectors, on a proper mustang dyno, on E85, and his whp is 406. Imagine that.

Could the car make more power with more fuel? Yes. Can it right now because it has 1kcc injectors, on E85. No.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
AGAIN, totally different fuel (not limited by your injectors), on a totally different dyno, on the opposite coast of America, with a different tuner, a different car, and different parts.

What part of those points don't you understand? Specifically look at point #1. Did you know that 1kcc injectors max out around 400 whp on a proper mustang dyno, on E85? Hey look the OP has 1kcc injectors, on a proper mustang dyno, on E85, and his whp is 406. Imagine that.

Could the car make more power with more fuel? Yes. Can it right now because it has 1kcc injectors, on E85. No.

Seriously, thanks for educating me bro... Like I said before I'm not a tuner, and was just curious on why he wasn't making more power. I'm just a driver who's mechanically inclined, but don't know worth a damn about what you guys do. I'm not like "many" who'm pretend to be tuners or know what they're talking about.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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i just want to subscribe to this, FP black for my car approaching sometime. OP, hope you enjoy your car and got what you were looking for
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Seems kinda low for a black what psi are you running ? My buddy made 505 with same mods...93 I believe too..

Edit: just read some explainations nvm
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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Like it's been said above, different fuel gives different numbers. On e85, my 1000cc are maxed out !with bigger injectors, I would have made more for same boost. plus it is very vague and irrelevant to compare the numbers of two cars, with the same mods, on "different fuel" and "different dyno".

My car has been tuned on a mustang dyno that does read very low. Rick told me that I would make about 460 on other dynos. I was tuned at 26psi, 1000cc e85. stock exhaust manifold, and also forgot to mention that i have the Exedy Twin Clutch HD . !

numbers are numbers, fun is fun. I asked for a very conservative tune, for longevity of my engine, I am very happy with the car now and i feel like one of the fastest car when i'm driving it.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 02:48 AM
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Do you have a boost curve you could post up compared to stock? I'd like to actually see the spool up on this thing...
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