Suggestions for Access Port Evo X Install and Use
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i was waiting for something like this
i was a diablo sport predator user for years.
shame they just build for USA made cars
as far as i can say for your posts i the same kind of tool
maybe even better
predator have the same structure
91 octane tune no CAI
93 octane tune no CAI
91 octane tune with CAI
93 Octane tune with CAI
also you can start or shutdown your fans at diferent temperatures, add spark, etc.
{thumbup**
$700 sound a little too much, but well, i think i have to work my *** harder to get it
i was a diablo sport predator user for years.
shame they just build for USA made cars
as far as i can say for your posts i the same kind of tool
maybe even better
predator have the same structure
91 octane tune no CAI
93 octane tune no CAI
91 octane tune with CAI
93 Octane tune with CAI
also you can start or shutdown your fans at diferent temperatures, add spark, etc.
{thumbup**
$700 sound a little too much, but well, i think i have to work my *** harder to get it
It is my understanding the the first time you use it, it backs up the map that's currently in the ECU to the AP device. So if you have a ECUtek map i would think that's what it backs up.
It was mentioned on another thread to call your tuner and he should be able to put your ECUtek tune into a AP tune format easily.
If you want to be sure, call COBB and ask them.
It was mentioned on another thread to call your tuner and he should be able to put your ECUtek tune into a AP tune format easily.
If you want to be sure, call COBB and ask them.
i was waiting for something like this
i was a diablo sport predator user for years.
shame they just build for USA made cars
as far as i can say for your posts i the same kind of tool
maybe even better
predator have the same structure
91 octane tune no CAI
93 octane tune no CAI
91 octane tune with CAI
93 Octane tune with CAI
also you can start or shutdown your fans at diferent temperatures, add spark, etc.
{thumbup**
$700 sound a little too much, but well, i think i have to work my *** harder to get it
i was a diablo sport predator user for years.
shame they just build for USA made cars
as far as i can say for your posts i the same kind of tool
maybe even better
predator have the same structure
91 octane tune no CAI
93 octane tune no CAI
91 octane tune with CAI
93 Octane tune with CAI
also you can start or shutdown your fans at diferent temperatures, add spark, etc.
{thumbup**
$700 sound a little too much, but well, i think i have to work my *** harder to get it
i kknow.. if it is *** dumb proof as diablosport hell ill bite
Anyone know how to view a log if you leave the AP hook up and select log? Is the program out, would be nice to do some 3rd gear pulls on the back roads and see what the engine is doing. One of the plus of this device is the logging capabilities. Thanks to anyone who answers.
Are these maps safe for the MRs?
Anyone know how to view a log if you leave the AP hook up and select log? Is the program out, would be nice to do some 3rd gear pulls on the back roads and see what the engine is doing. One of the plus of this device is the logging capabilities. Thanks to anyone who answers.
Once the firmware is updated, you can select "Monitor" then press OK (center button). Go down to "Set Data Log List", OK, then check/uncheck what to log. Exit out one level, select "Data Log" (with it connected to the vehicle). Press OK at the warning then the AP will display that it's communicating with the car. After that it will display one of the possible logging values and also display "not logging". Press OK again and it will show "logging". (I'm working from memory here, so please forgive it I have it in the wrong order). Note that the AP device is slow to respond over the OBD2 link, so a few seconds after each key press is in order. When it's logging, select something thta moves easily like RPM to know it's working.
Exit out to stop the recording/logging - or key off. Unplug the AP and connect it to your computer. Launch AP Manager and connect it (if you loaded maps, you know how to do this). Once the AP device is connected to AP Mgr, select menu View, Advanced. Another dialogbox will appear with the log files. Select/highlite (multiples), right-click, download (create the destination directory first). Close, eject, disconnect.
The logs are saved in a csv (comma separated values) file format. Excel will directly import them (with headings at the top). It samples about 3 times a second. I'm logging MPH, RPM, Int temp, MAP, TPS, Ignition Spark, Knock Retard, Learned Knock, Load, Mass Air Flow.
This may be a bit difficult to read depending on format. Columns represent
Seconds (sec), Vehicle Speed (mph), Engine RPM (RPM), Intake Air Temp ( F), Man Abs Pressure (PSI), TPS (V), Ign Advance, Knock Retard (CA), Learned Knock Retard (%), Calculated Load (%), & Mass Air Flow (g/s)
A 1-2 pull from a stop, manually shifting about 7K is shown in the attachment. Much better to view than the mangled tab-separated numbers.
Remember the first column is seconds, the second is MPH, third is RPM. Lots of useful data and easy to get.
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the MAP and Load values are incorrect in the upper ranges as boost and load level off at 62.53 seconds - while MAF (airflow) is still increasing. It also never displays higher than 18.29 for MAP absolute.
HTH.
BTW - If you don't have one of these [yet], it's time to get one.
Last edited by Q15H; Dec 5, 2008 at 09:09 AM.
As stated above, there are separate maps for MR vs GSR. I'm currently running the CA-AZ-NV-91 octane MR map. It really wakes up the car in the mid-range with lots more torque. Will try to dyno tomorrow to get some numbers but I'd guess it's 40+HP.
First update the firmware in the AP device as mentioned above. It will not datalog with the shipped version (and the values are incorrect when viewing).
Once the firmware is updated, you can select "Monitor" then press OK (center button). Go down to "Set Data Log List", OK, then check/uncheck what to log. Exit out one level, select "Data Log" (with it connected to the vehicle). Press OK at the warning then the AP will display that it's communicating with the car. After that it will display one of the possible logging values and also display "not logging". Press OK again and it will show "logging". (I'm working from memory here, so please forgive it I have it in the wrong order). Note that the AP device is slow to respond over the OBD2 link, so a few seconds after each key press is in order. When it's logging, select something thta moves easily like RPM to know it's working.
Exit out to stop the recording/logging - or key off. Unplug the AP and connect it to your computer. Launch AP Manager and connect it (if you loaded maps, you know how to do this). Once the AP device is connected to AP Mgr, select menu View, Advanced. Another dialogbox will appear with the log files. Select/highlite (multiples), right-click, download (create the destination directory first). Close, eject, disconnect.
The logs are saved in a csv (comma separated values) file format. Excel will directly import them (with headings at the top). It samples about 3 times a second. I'm logging MPH, RPM, Int temp, MAP, TPS, Ignition Spark, Knock Retard, Learned Knock, Load, Mass Air Flow.
This may be a bit difficult to read depending on format. Columns represent
Seconds (sec), Vehicle Speed (mph), Engine RPM (RPM), Intake Air Temp ( F), Man Abs Pressure (PSI), TPS (V), Ign Advance, Knock Retard (CA), Learned Knock Retard (%), Calculated Load (%), & Mass Air Flow (g/s)
A 1-2 pull from a stop, manually shifting about 7K is shown in the attachment. Much better to view than the mangled tab-separated numbers.
Remember the first column is seconds, the second is MPH, third is RPM. Lots of useful data and easy to get.
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the MAP and Load values are incorrect in the upper ranges as boost and load level off at 62.53 seconds - while MAF (airflow) is still increasing. It also never displays higher than 18.29 for MAP absolute.
HTH.
BTW - If you don't have one of these [yet], it's time to get one.
First update the firmware in the AP device as mentioned above. It will not datalog with the shipped version (and the values are incorrect when viewing).
Once the firmware is updated, you can select "Monitor" then press OK (center button). Go down to "Set Data Log List", OK, then check/uncheck what to log. Exit out one level, select "Data Log" (with it connected to the vehicle). Press OK at the warning then the AP will display that it's communicating with the car. After that it will display one of the possible logging values and also display "not logging". Press OK again and it will show "logging". (I'm working from memory here, so please forgive it I have it in the wrong order). Note that the AP device is slow to respond over the OBD2 link, so a few seconds after each key press is in order. When it's logging, select something thta moves easily like RPM to know it's working.
Exit out to stop the recording/logging - or key off. Unplug the AP and connect it to your computer. Launch AP Manager and connect it (if you loaded maps, you know how to do this). Once the AP device is connected to AP Mgr, select menu View, Advanced. Another dialogbox will appear with the log files. Select/highlite (multiples), right-click, download (create the destination directory first). Close, eject, disconnect.
The logs are saved in a csv (comma separated values) file format. Excel will directly import them (with headings at the top). It samples about 3 times a second. I'm logging MPH, RPM, Int temp, MAP, TPS, Ignition Spark, Knock Retard, Learned Knock, Load, Mass Air Flow.
This may be a bit difficult to read depending on format. Columns represent
Seconds (sec), Vehicle Speed (mph), Engine RPM (RPM), Intake Air Temp ( F), Man Abs Pressure (PSI), TPS (V), Ign Advance, Knock Retard (CA), Learned Knock Retard (%), Calculated Load (%), & Mass Air Flow (g/s)
A 1-2 pull from a stop, manually shifting about 7K is shown in the attachment. Much better to view than the mangled tab-separated numbers.
Remember the first column is seconds, the second is MPH, third is RPM. Lots of useful data and easy to get.
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the MAP and Load values are incorrect in the upper ranges as boost and load level off at 62.53 seconds - while MAF (airflow) is still increasing. It also never displays higher than 18.29 for MAP absolute.
HTH.
BTW - If you don't have one of these [yet], it's time to get one.
You da manggggYeah the first thing i did was update the AP, thanks.
Might be easier to read and make sense of it all if you use Excel’s built in charting to make a graph
Might be easier to read and make sense of it all if you use Excel’s built in charting to make a graph
So I generally do an X-Y Scatter graph with time/MPH, another with time/RPM, another with time/Load, ... then look at where I want to "drill down". Then change the Y-axis scaling (time) to zoom-in on the specific area I want to view (like Ignition Retard, RPM and Load).
Data analysis can be more complicated than just collecting the data and then there's also establishing the testing procedures. All are absolutely necessary to do any tuning. That's part of the fun, right?