Upgraded Internal Wastegate Actuator: EVO X - Gain 40whp?
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Personally, I'd just install a smaller restrictor pill or even better an aftermarket 3-port bcs. Both considerably inexpensive compared to that replacement actuator. They're all reasonable solutions to holding boost better.
Personally, I'd just install a smaller restrictor pill or even better an aftermarket 3-port bcs. Both considerably inexpensive compared to that replacement actuator. They're all reasonable solutions to holding boost better.
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you dont gain any power with it.
someone i know put just a forge WGA on his car and dynod less then me on the same dyno. stock vs stock + WGA.
someone i know put just a forge WGA on his car and dynod less then me on the same dyno. stock vs stock + WGA.
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How to install it?
You see most people have no experience with turbos! My other cars was solid v6 or v8 engine!
What can i do to reduce turbo lag?!
I do a lot of drift and the lag bothering me so much!
HELP.
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No. If you're making peak power up top anyway, and the WGA enables your wastegate flapper to stay perfectly shut up top, allowing you to make more boost; then you're going to end up making more peak HP.
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Do you actually do any tuning yourself? There are so many factors involved, it's not even funny. Could have been substantially more knock after the wastegate upgrade, and the ECU loves to pull timing and dump fuel on these engines. Unless you know for sure, stop speculating because what you're saying is highly debatable.
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I've dynoed before and after, when using a Manual boost controller to keep boost levels the same it will hold more boost in the mid range where you might see 15-20 whp gains. I was already maxxed at low RPM's and above 5500 rpms the turbo begins to taper from 25 psi down to 19 psi at 7500 rpms regardless of the wastgate being held shut by a stronger actuator.
So due to this mod only helping midrange boost it really won't show up on peak HP numbers at 6000-6500 because you can't force the turbo to hold any more boost than it was before. That is easily why it might show up as making less peak HP but if you overlay the dyno graphs there would be more HP and torque from 4000-5500 for sure. Here are my dyno plots:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ore-boost.html
Basically you will want to get a tune to adjust the boost levels or use a MBC if you get a Forge WGA. Like others have said the stock boost control is assuming a WGA spring opening pressure of 10-12 psi , not 19-24 psi so it will overboost if you don't plan ahead.
So due to this mod only helping midrange boost it really won't show up on peak HP numbers at 6000-6500 because you can't force the turbo to hold any more boost than it was before. That is easily why it might show up as making less peak HP but if you overlay the dyno graphs there would be more HP and torque from 4000-5500 for sure. Here are my dyno plots:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ore-boost.html
Basically you will want to get a tune to adjust the boost levels or use a MBC if you get a Forge WGA. Like others have said the stock boost control is assuming a WGA spring opening pressure of 10-12 psi , not 19-24 psi so it will overboost if you don't plan ahead.
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On the stock turbo the boost tapers starting at 5500 rpm's. Assuming that best case scenario you are tapered down to 22 psi by 6500, it doesn't matter if you had 26 psi or 23 psi at lower RPM's the extra boost won't improve the peak HP numbers. In fact it may even hurt them if the hotter intake charge is heat soaking the intercooler enough through the run.
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Do you actually do any tuning yourself? There are so many factors involved, it's not even funny. Could have been substantially more knock after the wastegate upgrade, and the ECU loves to pull timing and dump fuel on these engines. Unless you know for sure, stop speculating because what you're saying is highly debatable.
On the stock turbo the boost tapers starting at 5500 rpm's. Assuming that best case scenario you are tapered down to 22 psi by 6500, it doesn't matter if you had 26 psi or 23 psi at lower RPM's the extra boost won't improve the peak HP numbers. In fact it may even hurt them if the hotter intake charge is heat soaking the intercooler enough through the run.
answer is no.
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