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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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yes they are different, this mod is ONLY for the airflow tables/dtc's

i am working on the torque tables/dtc's
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Ok. Thanks. But here is my question: Why are the 1, 2, 3 airflow limiters the same as the 1, 2, 3 torque limiters in ECUflash? If these have two different functions, then why do they have the same numbers in ECUflash, ie, # 1 airflow is the same as #1 torque and so on.

If they are the same, then shouldn't disabling one also disable the other? Just asking, not arguing
they simply have the same raw value. That doesn't meant hey are the SAME or do the SAME thing.

UINT8 isnt "reality" 90% of the time.
I never get those CEL.... on any car.....
Red, stock , dom2, never....
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HB Speed
they simply have the same raw value. That doesn't meant hey are the SAME or do the SAME thing.

UINT8 isnt "reality" 90% of the time.
I never get those CEL.... on any car.....
Red, stock , dom2, never....
So please enlighten us about what the values mean. Since the numbers do not mean the same thing, then what do they mean. To be more specific, in airflow check # 1 and in torque check #1 @ 4000 rpm and 80% throttle the number reads 162. What does that mean and how is the number different between the two tables.
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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so this works for P1233, P1234 and P1235?
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
So please enlighten us about what the values mean. Since the numbers do not mean the same thing, then what do they mean. To be more specific, in airflow check # 1 and in torque check #1 @ 4000 rpm and 80% throttle the number reads 162. What does that mean and how is the number different between the two tables.
We are still determining what they do and how, but I have a pretty good idea.
I just know how to set them so no CEL occurs.
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
So please enlighten us about what the values mean. Since the numbers do not mean the same thing, then what do they mean. To be more specific, in airflow check # 1 and in torque check #1 @ 4000 rpm and 80% throttle the number reads 162. What does that mean and how is the number different between the two tables.
They are different.


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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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I love how you both say that they are different w/o explaining how. Whatever, carry on.
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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I thought a guy like you knew all that already, I am amazed you don't.

airflow ref the airmeter and compares to lookup table.
torque ref the map sensor and compares to lookup.

Then there is a comparison to each other.

That's a short version!


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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
I thought a guy like you knew all that already, I am amazed you don't.

airflow ref the airmeter and compares to lookup table.
torque ref the map sensor and compares to lookup.

Then there is a comparison to each other.

That's a short version!


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That is NOT what I am asking. Read my question to HB Speed and then answer it if you are so inclined. Here it is again:

Since the numbers do not mean the same thing, then what do they mean. To be more specific, in airflow check # 1 and in torque check #1 @ 4000 rpm and 80% throttle the number reads 162. What does that mean and how is the number different between the two tables.

So what does 162 mean in each table? If as you say one table references the MAF and the other references the MAP, then what does the 162 number stand for? What are its units? Why is it the same in both tables? Let us assume that the number is g/s in one and load in the other, how did the number come out the same?

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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
That is NOT what I am asking. Read my question to HB Speed and then answer it if you are so inclined. Here it is again:

Since the numbers do not mean the same thing, then what do they mean. To be more specific, in airflow check # 1 and in torque check #1 @ 4000 rpm and 80% throttle the number reads 162. What does that mean and how is the number different between the two tables.

So what does 162 mean in each table? If as you say one table references the MAF and the other references the MAP, then what does the 162 number stand for? What are its units? Why is it the same in both tables? Let us assume that the number is g/s in one and load in the other, how did the number come out the same?
I believe the scaling format and units being used is not the "correct" one yet as we don't know 100% what they reference, so it's just a number.
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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And if you want to cause it to not show up, you can probably set it to 255 and forget it. (I haven't tested that as I haven't ran into this problem)
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And if you want to cause it to not show up, you can probably set it to 255 and forget it. (I haven't tested that as I haven't ran into this problem)
Unfortunatly you cannot
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying that there is a sweet spot to put it and by placing it too high could cause this to show up again for some reason?
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Has to be within......as per the routine.......if it falls outside then...... :-)



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Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying that there is a sweet spot to put it and by placing it too high could cause this to show up again for some reason?
Yea, it has to be within a parameter. If setting it maxed out worked we wouldn't be having this thread and many others.



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