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Old Aug 12, 2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
I believe the scaling format and units being used is not the "correct" one yet as we don't know 100% what they reference, so it's just a number.
I agree 100%

Now GST, does the actual # you see in that table bother you? Do you care?

Or does the function of the routine more interest you?

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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
I agree 100%

Now GST, does the actual # you see in that table bother you? Do you care?

Or does the function of the routine more interest you?

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The function of the routine is of more interest. On the plus side, that understanding will lead to a scaling formula that will make more sense visually.... the journey is the destination.
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
The function of the routine is of more interest. On the plus side, that understanding will lead to a scaling formula that will make more sense visually.... the journey is the destination.


yep!
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GST is the man!

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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
I believe the scaling format and units being used is not the "correct" one yet as we don't know 100% what they reference, so it's just a number.
That is what I am getting at. There is a lot of uncertainty when it comes to these tables. No one knows what is going on. No one knows if the numbers in the tables are accurate or not.

I am glad that Bryan comes out and says it. I am not afraid of saying that I DO NOT KNOW how something works or if the tables in ECUflash are accurate or not. Uncertainty is the path to knowledge, at least for me.

ECUflash used to list 3 BDEL/WGDC tables for the Evo 8/9, now it lists two. The idle table for the Evo 9 was wrong. And I suspect that these airflow/torque numbers will be corrected, because the same numbers in tables intended to do two different functions does not make sense.
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Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
That is what I am getting at. There is a lot of uncertainty when it comes to these tables. No one knows what is going on. No one knows if the numbers in the tables are accurate or not.

I am glad that Bryan comes out and says it. I am not afraid of saying that I DO NOT KNOW how something works or if the tables in ECUflash are accurate or not. Uncertainty is the path to knowledge, at least for me.

ECUflash used to list 3 BDEL/WGDC tables for the Evo 8/9, now it lists two. The idle table for the Evo 9 was wrong. And I suspect that these airflow/torque numbers will be corrected, because the same numbers in tables intended to do two different functions does not make sense.

Things i know for a fact:
  • How to set them
  • how to avoid any P1XXX codes
Things i have a good theory on:
  • What the Airflow limiter is and does
  • What the Torque Limiter is and does
  • How to get the MR to "lock up" better on shifts :-p
  • What the real numbers are
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Originally Posted by HB Speed
Things i know for a fact:
  • How to set them
  • how to avoid any P1XXX codes
Things i have a good theory on:
  • What the Airflow limiter is and does
  • What the Torque Limiter is and does
  • How to get the MR to "lock up" better on shifts :-p
  • What the real numbers are
How to set........check.

How to avoid 12xx codes even on 600+hp cars.........check

What device the airflow limiter is determined by.....check

What device controls the triggering of the torque limiter ...check

What the real numbers are.......check......

Checkitty check!!

Ecutek has alot of the stuff right, I only use Ecutek and Cobb to tune evo 10s at this point :-)




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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune

Ecutek has alot of the stuff right, I only use Ecutek and Cobb to tune evo 10s at this point :-)
Just FYI, EcuFlash has more tables (and correct tables) than Cobb (even ProTuner) currently has. EcuTek I'm not sure as I haven't looked at it lately. I know EcuTek has updated some SST related tables as I have seen some tuners post about it. EcuFlash has them as well, just not public yet...

EcuFlash has had Ralliart tuning for months now, Cobb is still working on it.

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tried this today, still throwing a p1235
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
I believe the scaling format and units being used is not the "correct" one yet as we don't know 100% what they reference, so it's just a number.
+1

IIRC, the values max out @ 255, correct?

I have a feeling they're just arbitrary numbers, just like I've seen in so many maps in so many tuning setups over the years.

So in other words, if you had a value of 127 in one of the cells, it would be roughly 50% of the max. What exactly that means, OTOH, I can't tell you.
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Old Aug 20, 2009, 11:38 PM
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I got another method for disabling this to test - see

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...p1238-etc.html

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edit :-)
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Another Ninja edit
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Old Aug 22, 2009, 07:02 PM
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Can we close this thread, since I have an alternate solution.

And the natives are getting restless :P
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Old Aug 22, 2009, 07:08 PM
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lock it up thanks Tephra!
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