Notices
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums Discuss the major engine management systems.

Cobb AP: Fuel Economy Map

Old Dec 6, 2009 | 03:27 PM
  #1  
780's Avatar
780
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Cobb AP: Fuel Economy Map

I am planning on getting the Cobb AP for my stock Evo X. I had a question for those of you who are stock and running the Cobb AP with the Fuel Economy Map, what kind of mpg have you received? Noticeable difference? Driving experience?
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:26 PM
  #2  
UntouchableEvo's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton, AB, CAN
I don't know if anyone has tested this on a stock Evo however I do believe that people have had fairly good results with that map, it could also be the different mods made a difference too. I do hope someone with more knowledge can chime in...
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:44 PM
  #3  
Clipse3GT's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 2
From: Cleveland, OH
From what I seen that mode basically turns your car into a sluggish turd by trying to keep you out of boost as long as possible.
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:48 PM
  #4  
780's Avatar
780
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Canada
I understand that it lowers boost considerably and if I was running on the fuel economy map traveling long distance highway or city driving would there be a large difference in mpg; the performance is not too much of an issue if I decide to use the map.
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:25 PM
  #5  
Methodical4u's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 1
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by 780
I understand that it lowers boost considerably and if I was running on the fuel economy map traveling long distance highway or city driving would there be a large difference in mpg; the performance is not too much of an issue if I decide to use the map.
I've asked several people about it, but there are people who are increasing their timing and getting better MPG.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:27 AM
  #6  
780's Avatar
780
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Originally Posted by Methodical4u
I've asked several people about it, but there are people who are increasing their timing and getting better MPG.
That would require a custom tune and I am going to wait till I have more mods before I decide to do that. I would rather drive with the Cobb AP for the maps it comes with and was just wondering what kind of results anyone stock or close to it without a custom tune has been getting with the stock Cobb maps; i.e. the fuel economy map.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:28 AM
  #7  
xhomm02's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 318
Likes: 0
From: Czech rep.
I have tried in summer Stage1 93 (no WOT, just cruising) on one way (100 miles) and Economy map on the way back and I had better results with Stage1 map. I do not remember the number but I remember it was so dissapointing that I decided not to use the economy map any more.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:30 PM
  #8  
goofygrin's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 4
From: Frisco, TX
if you run the economy map make sure that you run GOOD gas. Guy locally with an STi got bad gas on the economy map and blew his motor. Cause? Correlation? Who knows. Just my experience. When I had my AP I never used the economy map.
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 03:16 PM
  #9  
LaXGSR's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: US
Originally Posted by goofygrin
if you run the economy map make sure that you run GOOD gas. Guy locally with an STi got bad gas on the economy map and blew his motor. Cause? Correlation? Who knows. Just my experience. When I had my AP I never used the economy map.
If I had to guess, I'd say the economy map probably tries to run more timing and less boost than stock. If you get bad gas, maybe on the STi it knocked too much. Just a wild guess...
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:02 PM
  #10  
goofygrin's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 4
From: Frisco, TX
that was our guess.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:59 AM
  #11  
terror75's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: New York
This might be part of this post. But I was reading in the other evo forums and they mentioned about a Mitsu ecu flash which gave them better fuel economy. from 24-25 on local and 28.9 on highway and it was covered in there warrenty. So, I was wondering if anyone in this forum tried it out? Well, it's not like the 2010 X is a gas saver now. haha
I wonder if all Mistu dealerships has the new flash map for our cars?
Reply
Old Dec 12, 2009 | 10:53 PM
  #12  
780's Avatar
780
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Canada
I probably will still go with the Cobb AP, however I will be a bit more careful with which map I am running. And terror75, if that is true I am definitely going to check it out.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:26 AM
  #13  
Methodical4u's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 1
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by 780
That would require a custom tune and I am going to wait till I have more mods before I decide to do that. I would rather drive with the Cobb AP for the maps it comes with and was just wondering what kind of results anyone stock or close to it without a custom tune has been getting with the stock Cobb maps; i.e. the fuel economy map.
i'm no tuner dude... it's easy to change the timing and it's not dangerous at all.. you are talking about 2-3 degrees from 0-40 load. I did it and took a little ride to my Dad's house which my best mileage was 23.5 or so... changed the timing and as I pulled into his driveway it was right at 26.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:29 AM
  #14  
Methodical4u's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,815
Likes: 1
From: Maryland
Originally Posted by terror75
This might be part of this post. But I was reading in the other evo forums and they mentioned about a Mitsu ecu flash which gave them better fuel economy. from 24-25 on local and 28.9 on highway and it was covered in there warrenty. So, I was wondering if anyone in this forum tried it out? Well, it's not like the 2010 X is a gas saver now. haha
I wonder if all Mistu dealerships has the new flash map for our cars?
that's the first i'm hearing of 29 mpg on the highway, I find that hard to believe, they would have to SERIOUSLY lean the fuel out likely make all sorts of other adjustments as well.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:51 AM
  #15  
xRoguex's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,666
Likes: 12
From: Pittsburgh, PA
you all are aware it says evo and not a prius on the trunk .....right?
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:31 AM.