Deatsch werks 1300cc injectors review / Scale / Latency
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Thanks Hollywood for taking the time to put this together and share with the people.
Thanks Hollywood for taking the time to put this together and share with the people.
The problem is, when you hit that limit, it is rarely at the highest rpm you're going to run, and the AFR simply leans out aggressively and linearly from there on up. Widebands and tuning to a nice safe peak IDC keeps this from happening.
No offense, but you gotta loose this attitude. Some simple research will prove the above is true. Not much progress can be made with making the ecu better/more accessible if people are demanding trivial information of the highest of high ecu gurus. Please try researching yourself, then asking the COMMUNITY, not just one guy
Tephra's busy enough as it is!
Tephra's busy enough as it is!
No offense, but you gotta loose this attitude. Some simple research will prove the above is true. Not much progress can be made with making the ecu better/more accessible if people are demanding trivial information of the highest of high ecu gurus. Please try researching yourself, then asking the COMMUNITY, not just one guy
Tephra's busy enough as it is!
Tephra's busy enough as it is!
Also my numbers will be off from yours is the MAF scaling isn't correct.
Just a little extra food for thought here for some of you also.
I am running a 255lph in tank pump and with my mod's tuned for peak performance I run 65% IDC on 93 pump gas. So by using a typical B.S.F.C. (Brake specific fuel consumption) calculator I can deduce that I am running 505 BHP. To support the 505 I need a 200lph pump running 43.5psi to sustain my my IDC's.
Now running E85 my IDC's are 80-85% and thats right where I am maxing out my 255lph pump. Here are some cool calculators to help you figure out your fuel consumption needs. Remember these are based on gasoline and E85 requires 33% more flow so keep that in mind.
I am running a 255lph in tank pump and with my mod's tuned for peak performance I run 65% IDC on 93 pump gas. So by using a typical B.S.F.C. (Brake specific fuel consumption) calculator I can deduce that I am running 505 BHP. To support the 505 I need a 200lph pump running 43.5psi to sustain my my IDC's.
Now running E85 my IDC's are 80-85% and thats right where I am maxing out my 255lph pump. Here are some cool calculators to help you figure out your fuel consumption needs. Remember these are based on gasoline and E85 requires 33% more flow so keep that in mind.
Golden...... WHAT?....... are you sure about that?! if so, why the hell does it work that way!? who makes 120% the new 100% can someone comfirm this for sure? if so, why the hell are we worrying about our 1000cc injectors?!?!?! he's running a 255 walbro
Mlomker, yeah haha he's always trying to one up me
he went all out with a full race exhaust manifold and ams downpipe, where i have a ported manifold and Greddy downpipe (cuz that was the only one available when i bought mine). but we still make the same power 
Mlomker, yeah haha he's always trying to one up me
he went all out with a full race exhaust manifold and ams downpipe, where i have a ported manifold and Greddy downpipe (cuz that was the only one available when i bought mine). but we still make the same power 
The PTE 780cc injectors I had running at ~110% logged dc on my IX were *usually* OK, but every once in a while AFR would get pretty erratic. You wouldn't want to be hitting a boost spike or cold air or anything to push you over the edge in that situation, so just up-size your injectors... it is better than nothing even if your fuel pump can't support the extra 300cc per injector.
haha losing what attitude? no offense but there is a lot of bad information from people in the forums as it is. not saying that golden is one of these, but there are plenty of people in here, including moderators, that think they know a lot. so i'm sorry for trying to get a straight answer from one of the few people that I KNOW they are trust worthy. your post would have been deserved if i would have kept asking and asking and asking tephra to answer or bumping the thread until he did. but last time i checked i only asked once. please don't come at me like that. however, thanks for your personal example of IDC. 

It helps alot when you bring valid options and discussion points to a question, rather than just saying "I need and deserve halp! Do the reading for me".
If you don't understand where people have already gone wrong, you may not really understand how to go right.
Last edited by fostytou; Jul 12, 2010 at 08:09 AM.
Remember that your fuel pressure raises 1psi for every 1 psi of boost... so at 30psi you are running 73.5 psi of fuel pressure, and the flow of that 255 drops significantly. I believe that the walboro is rater for 255 at 30psi, but that may be incorrect. See the AMS fuel pump test for actual flow.




