Deatsch werks 1300cc injectors review / Scale / Latency
So for the time being I should stick with my recommendation to customers about these injectors it seems. I have been told by some its the nature of the mods to the injector that are causing the coil to act erratically. We had to take them out of the car because it simply didnt run right long enough to justify letting a customer drive home on them that way.
I heard about issues with these but this was the first set we had personally seen ever.
I heard about issues with these but this was the first set we had personally seen ever.
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Did you have an issue with delkats 1300cc's?
Bryan keeps tweaking. We seem to have improved the erratic lean to rich oscillation on the highway. It still seems to do it under light load in the lower gears but not as bad. The idle is still all over the place. It's lean then rich/800 RPM bouncing around and then 1300.
So for the time being I should stick with my recommendation to customers about these injectors it seems. I have been told by some its the nature of the mods to the injector that are causing the coil to act erratically. We had to take them out of the car because it simply didnt run right long enough to justify letting a customer drive home on them that way.
I heard about issues with these but this was the first set we had personally seen ever.
I heard about issues with these but this was the first set we had personally seen ever.
Bryan keeps tweaking. We seem to have improved the erratic lean to rich oscillation on the highway. It still seems to do it under light load in the lower gears but not as bad. The idle is still all over the place. It's lean then rich/800 RPM bouncing around and then 1300.
I was noticing yesterday that the afrs seem to be much more stable when the fuel relay is kicked over 12v. Could it be that these are strugggling with the lower 43 psi I get on my fuel pressure guage at idle? Anyone know how I could quickly force the pump to stay at 12v?
Threw in a jumper im now getting 59 psi all the time. After my first test drive I think I can almost live with these injectors now. Idle is much more stable, and it definately smoothed out the afr at criuse. Ill keep working on it and post back.
You'll probably want an afpr since the stock fpr can't handle the flow and 59psi is way too much at idle. I'm not sure what the limits of the stock return line is but you'll certainly be blowing fireballs with that kind of pressure.
I'm having *identical* problems with ID2000 injectors. My AFRs vary from 12-18 at cruise...it's absolutely intolerable when it leans out and lugs the car. The DW800 and 1000's have both been flawless. I just ordered up a set of 1300's and now I read about the problems that people are having with them. Shoot me now!
I'm not saying it is a DW problem...we may be seeing an ECU issue. The new Tephra settings for latency were a huge improvement over the last time that I tried the big ID's.
I'm having *identical* problems with ID2000 injectors. My AFRs vary from 12-18 at cruise...it's absolutely intolerable when it leans out and lugs the car. The DW800 and 1000's have both been flawless. I just ordered up a set of 1300's and now I read about the problems that people are having with them. Shoot me now!
I'm not saying it is a DW problem...we may be seeing an ECU issue. The new Tephra settings for latency were a huge improvement over the last time that I tried the big ID's.
Last edited by mlomker; Sep 6, 2010 at 10:58 AM.
So how many people have gotten these to work in an Evo X pefectly? My DW1000's were awesome, and I have some DW1300's (really 1400's) waiting to go in.
I am getting a little nervous about getting these to work properly, I know DW sent out a few sets for BETA and they seemed to work fine. Were they not an Evo X's or something? I really don't want any problems with my motor build...if I get any gremlins, kiss the rest of the year goodbye for driving weather.
I am getting a little nervous about getting these to work properly, I know DW sent out a few sets for BETA and they seemed to work fine. Were they not an Evo X's or something? I really don't want any problems with my motor build...if I get any gremlins, kiss the rest of the year goodbye for driving weather.
So how many people have gotten these to work in an Evo X pefectly? My DW1000's were awesome, and I have some DW1300's (really 1400's) waiting to go in.
I am getting a little nervous about getting these to work properly, I know DW sent out a few sets for BETA and they seemed to work fine. Were they not an Evo X's or something? I really don't want any problems with my motor build...if I get any gremlins, kiss the rest of the year goodbye for driving weather.
I am getting a little nervous about getting these to work properly, I know DW sent out a few sets for BETA and they seemed to work fine. Were they not an Evo X's or something? I really don't want any problems with my motor build...if I get any gremlins, kiss the rest of the year goodbye for driving weather.
The bad sets have been VERY loud. You can hear them from an easy 100ft across a parking lot.
- Bryan
So you have confirmed that some work great and others just don't work? So this isn't an ECU issue, with not having some tables defined yet or something?
Some have worked in that they don't sound like a diesel with a collapsed lifter idling on 3 cylinders.
Trust me you will know if they are bad. There are no "I think I can tune this out" thoughts in your head, and yes, I tried just because I was curious.
Maybe some people won't mind clacking diesel sounding injectors?
- Bryan
Good question, unfortunatly I do not have an answer.
Some have worked in that they don't sound like a diesel with a collapsed lifter idling on 3 cylinders.
Trust me you will know if they are bad. There are no "I think I can tune this out" thoughts in your head, and yes, I tried just because I was curious.
Maybe some people won't mind clacking diesel sounding injectors?
- Bryan
Some have worked in that they don't sound like a diesel with a collapsed lifter idling on 3 cylinders.
Trust me you will know if they are bad. There are no "I think I can tune this out" thoughts in your head, and yes, I tried just because I was curious.
Maybe some people won't mind clacking diesel sounding injectors?
- Bryan
I guess I will let everyone know how they work out.



