Extremely Lean ARF's Under Boost
Extremely Lean ARF's Under Boost
I currently have an AEM Wideband installed to monitor AFR's. During normal part throttle driving the AFR numbers are normal hovering around 14.7. during WOT the AFR are normal until about 10 PSI of boost when it goes to extremely lean (maxes out my wideband at 17.0:1). I am currently using a Cobb AP and a MBC. when i unmarry the AP and remove the MBC (essentially returning it to stock) nothing changes. same issue at WOT. I figured out that if i reset the ecu with my AP or kill the power from the battery, that the car runs properly for one trip. ie. if i kill the power to the ECU and let it reset and hook it back up, crank it up it will run properly until i turn the car off. i have tried this with the AP married and MBC installed, and with it uninstalled and No MBC. this leads me to believe it is a sensor/electrical issue. i have ordered the Fuel Pump Relay, and cleaned my MAP sensor. i have checked my MAF sensor and it also looks good. there are NO CEL's being thrown during this process. i am still running the stock FPR and injectors. according to the logging in the AP the MAF sensor is working
so my question is, does anyone have any other suggestions on what i can check or what the problem may be? thanks.
so my question is, does anyone have any other suggestions on what i can check or what the problem may be? thanks.
What do you mean by it runs okay when you reset the battery? Does the car run normal AFR's after you've reset the ecu, but start running lean after you've driven it a distance? Is the car falling flat on its face when youre in boost? If your car is actually hitting 17:1 at any boost at all your engine would have no power, knock really bad and likely blow up. We need more info on how it was actually driving. Likely an electrical issue somewhere if it drives okay.
Last edited by blackevolution8; Jul 4, 2010 at 07:19 PM.
What do you mean by it runs okay when you reset the battery? Does the car run normal AFR's after you've reset the ecu, but start running lean after you've driven it a distance? Is the car falling flat on its face when youre in boost? If your car is actually hitting 17:1 at any boost at all your engine would have no power, knock really bad and likely blow up. We need more info on how it was actually driving. Likely an electrical issue somewhere if it drives okay.
Check your FPR hose on the engine. Mine popped loose when I accelerated in traffic. I had a huge spike of knock on the AccessPort (I believe knock retard jumped to 7.7) as the vehicle shuddered and my AFR's went very lean for a moment. I was able to make it home cruising with relatively normal AFR's, and the next morning when the car was cool, I checked to make sure nothing had popped loose. Sure enough, it was the FPR hose. I've since tightened it down with zip ties, and it seems pretty solid, though I may switch to some small hose clamps as a more permanent solution.
My car had pretty much the same symptoms, idled like **** at stoplights, and had a noticable loss of power at WOT with the AFR's shooting up. The AccessPort barely logged any knock at all during cruising and WOT after the initial incident, though it would still read knock at random RPM's. Thankfully I caught it pretty quickly, and hopefully no damage was done.
My car had pretty much the same symptoms, idled like **** at stoplights, and had a noticable loss of power at WOT with the AFR's shooting up. The AccessPort barely logged any knock at all during cruising and WOT after the initial incident, though it would still read knock at random RPM's. Thankfully I caught it pretty quickly, and hopefully no damage was done.
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Before anything else, make sure to check and see if the fuel pump relay had been replaced.
Make sure to keep us posted once you have been able to diagnose the issue. This could be a big problem for us as well later in the future.
Make sure to keep us posted once you have been able to diagnose the issue. This could be a big problem for us as well later in the future.
First thanks for all of your input. just an UPDATE: I checked the
spark plugs, they are good.
FPR hose, I went ahead an replaced it thinking it may have split under foam part i couldn't see.
took it out for a test drive and still messing up.
the newer Blue Relay should be in tomorrow.
spark plugs, they are good.
FPR hose, I went ahead an replaced it thinking it may have split under foam part i couldn't see.
took it out for a test drive and still messing up.
the newer Blue Relay should be in tomorrow.



