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Sep 29, 2010 | 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by derekste

"hey do a bunch of work and give me something I don't need right now but might need in the distant future"

It's easier to look now than to re-figure it all out later.

Sep 29, 2010 | 11:44 PM

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Sep 30, 2010 | 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kozmic27

Golden has done enough work to be able to ask that and have earned it. Anyone driving a 2010 USDM Evo thats tuned, odds are that Golden did the map definitions the tuner used. This doesn't even count the various other world market cars he has also defined for people.

Yeah that! coming from a 2010 owner

Oct 1, 2010 | 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kozmic27

That is not necessarily true. I had the 2010 Defs done long before Golden did and was tuning cars.
Golden has gone thru and changed the addresses to match the maps he already had. afaik he didn't find any NEW maps.

Oct 1, 2010 | 12:11 PM

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This is not correct.

Oct 1, 2010 | 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kozmic27

This is not correct.

And you know this how?
I tuned the FIRST (and at the time ONLY) 2010 MR in the USA
so there is not one person who could have had def's before i did.

Oct 1, 2010 | 02:48 PM

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Guys, take your pissing match elsewhere.

I realized today that there are some gaps in tephra's post, where the original XML comes from and such, I think I will write up a secondary section to this post to elaborate.

For 2008 USDM.

evo10base.xml

Code:

<scaling name="Loadify" units="%" toexpr="(x*10/512)*10/32" frexpr="(x*32/10)*512/10" format="%.1f" min="0" max="300" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<scaling name="StockXMAP in kPa" units="StockXMAP in kPa" toexpr="((x*2556/3800)+0.5)/2" frexpr="((x * 2)-0.5)*3800/2556" format="%.2f" min="0" max="350" inc="0.05" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<scaling name="Omni4barMAP in kPa" units="Omni4barMAP in kPa" toexpr="((x/4)*1.6151)+3.4779" frexpr="((x-3.4779)/1.6151)*4" format="%.2f" min="0" max="400" inc="0.05" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #1 - Hot/Interpolated" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="StockXMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #2 - Cold/Interpolated" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #3" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Stock3bar" category="Misc" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="AFR">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="10" scaling="StockXMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="MAT" type="Y Axis" elements="7" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>		
<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Omni4bar" category="Misc" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="AFR">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="10" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="MAT" type="Y Axis" elements="7" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

52680015.xml

Code:

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #1 - Hot/Interpolated" address="60454">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #2 - Cold/Interpolated" address="60178">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #3" address="5fe9c">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Stock3bar" address="60b4d">
	<table name="MAP" address="62ab6"/>
	<table name="MAT" address="62aa2"/>
</table>		
<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Omni4bar" address="60b4d">
	<table name="MAP" address="62ab6"/>
	<table name="MAT" address="62aa2"/>
</table>

This data is sourced from:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...af-tables.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8684920-post28.html

and put together with what tephra wrote in post #1.

Last edited by scheides; Oct 1, 2010 at 02:53 PM.

Oct 1, 2010 | 05:28 PM

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Is this any of the stuff I was missing today on the dyno?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides

Code:

<scaling name="Loadify" units="%" toexpr="(x*10/512)*10/32" frexpr="(x*32/10)*512/10" format="%.1f" min="0" max="300" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<scaling name="StockXMAP in kPa" units="StockXMAP in kPa" toexpr="((x*2556/3800)+0.5)/2" frexpr="((x * 2)-0.5)*3800/2556" format="%.2f" min="0" max="350" inc="0.05" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<scaling name="Omni4barMAP in kPa" units="Omni4barMAP in kPa" toexpr="((x/4)*1.6151)+3.4779" frexpr="((x-3.4779)/1.6151)*4" format="%.2f" min="0" max="400" inc="0.05" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #1 - Hot/Interpolated" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="StockXMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #2 - Cold/Interpolated" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #3" category="Fuel" type="3D" level="2" swapxy="true" scaling="Loadify">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="19" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="19" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Stock3bar" category="Misc" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="AFR">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="10" scaling="StockXMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="MAT" type="Y Axis" elements="7" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>		
<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Omni4bar" category="Misc" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="AFR">
	<table name="MAP" type="X Axis" elements="10" scaling="Omni4barMAP in kPa"/>
	<table name="MAT" type="Y Axis" elements="7" scaling="Temp"/>
</table>

52680015.xml

Code:

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #1 - Hot/Interpolated" address="60454">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #2 - Cold/Interpolated" address="60178">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="MAP based Load Calc #3" address="5fe9c">
<table name="MAP" address="62a2e"/>
<table name="RPM" address="62a02"/>
</table>

<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Stock3bar" address="60b4d">
	<table name="MAP" address="62ab6"/>
	<table name="MAT" address="62aa2"/>
</table>		
<table name="Fuel Compensation MAT vs MAP - Omni4bar" address="60b4d">
	<table name="MAP" address="62ab6"/>
	<table name="MAT" address="62aa2"/>
</table>

This data is sourced from:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...af-tables.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8684920-post28.html

and put together with what tephra wrote in post #1.

Oct 13, 2010 | 07:38 PM

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BTT because it should be sticky....

Oct 13, 2010 | 08:15 PM

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Should be yes. I'll be testing it out soon. I bought an extra Omni 4 Bar by accident. Anyone need one?

Oct 14, 2010 | 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru

Should be yes. I'll be testing it out soon. I bought an extra Omni 4 Bar by accident. Anyone need one?

I ordered one last week, but am still waiting on it. I want to see if it is going to work on the MR...I sure hope so.

Oct 15, 2010 | 06:48 AM

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This is working great on my car.

One thing to note, the boost error correction doesn't function on this yet, I am running with it off right now.

Tephra, I know you said you would check this out, is that an easy addition?

Oct 15, 2010 | 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by murlo26

Are you using the ecu to control boost or a mbc? If the ecu, then I am going to assume it runs to the waste gate table and just parks there?

Oct 15, 2010 | 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kozmic27

Are you using the ecu to control boost or a mbc? If the ecu, then I am going to assume it runs to the waste gate table and just parks there?

ECU controlled. I am using PSI based boost too.

What was happening is the ECU thought the car was at a lower psi than it really was so it was trying to way overboost the car.

Oct 15, 2010 | 06:32 PM

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This is my xml for the omni4bar and directboost:

Code:

&lt;scaling name="Omni4barBoostErrorPsi" units="psi" toexpr="(x-128)*0.2343/4" frexpr="(x*4/0.2343)+128" format="%.1f" min="-6.1" max="6.1" inc="0.1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/&gt;
&lt;scaling name="Omni4barOffsetWGDC" units="WGDC Change" toexpr="(x-128)/2" frexpr="x*2+128" format="%.1f" min="-64" max="63.5" inc="0.5" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/&gt;
&lt;scaling name="Omni4barpsia8" units="psia" toexpr="x*0.2343" frexpr="x/0.2343" format="%.1f" min="0" max="49.5" inc="0.1" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/&gt;
&lt;scaling name="Omni4barpsia16" units="psia" toexpr="x*0.2343" frexpr="x/0.2343" format="%.1f" min="0" max="49.5" inc="0.1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/&gt;

&lt;table name="Atmospheric Boost (Omni4bar)" category="Direct Boost" address="XYZ" type="1D" scaling="Omni4barpsia16"/&gt;
&lt;table name="Target Boost Error Correction  (Omni4bar)" category="Direct Boost" address="XYZ" type="2D" scaling="OffsetWGDC"&gt;
	&lt;table name="Boost Error" address="XYZ" type="Y Axis" elements="17" scaling="Omni4barBoostErrorPsi"/&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;table name="Boost Target #1A (High Gear Range) (Omni4bar)" category="Direct Boost" address="XYZ" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Omni4barpsia8"&gt;
	&lt;table name="Throttle" type="X Axis" elements="9" scaling="Throttle_Main - Stored Minimum Throttle %" address="XYZ"/&gt;
	&lt;table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="18" scaling="RPM" address="XYZ"/&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;table name="Boost Target #1B (High Gear Range) (Omni4bar)" category="Direct Boost" address="XYZ" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Omni4barpsia8"&gt;
	&lt;table name="Throttle" type="X Axis" elements="9" scaling="Throttle_Main - Stored Minimum Throttle %" address="XYZ"/&gt;
	&lt;table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="18" scaling="RPM" address="XYZ"/&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;table name="Boost Target #2 (Low Gear Range) (Omni4bar)" category="Direct Boost" address="XYZ" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Omni4barpsia8"&gt;
	&lt;table name="Throttle" type="X Axis" elements="9" scaling="Throttle_Main - Stored Minimum Throttle %" address="XYZ"/&gt;
	&lt;table name="RPM" type="Y Axis" elements="18" scaling="RPM" address="XYZ"/&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

You will need to update the addresses with your ROM

Last edited by tephra; Mar 11, 2016 at 04:27 PM.

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