Notices
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums Discuss the major engine management systems.

Hard knock at start and soft through the gears.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 3, 2010, 01:52 PM
  #1  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
oftheheavens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: cherry point NC
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hard knock at start and soft through the gears.

Stock except k&n panel filter and Cobb ap.

Running the hks 91 octane (but with 93 fuel) Cobb mapp and my LTFT is fine.

I get about 1.8 to 2.4 knock retard on start. This could just be the mic reacting to the sound of start up. Then I get about .4 to .7 through most if the gears at near WOT.

Does any of this raise a flag, or am I ok?
Old Oct 5, 2010, 03:41 AM
  #2  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
oftheheavens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: cherry point NC
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone know about this stuff?
Old Oct 6, 2010, 11:02 AM
  #3  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
SilverEvoX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm not sure about at start but .4-.7 count's is no big deal. Usually anything less than a 2 count is fine. Are you knocking all the way through the rpm band or only at certain rpms? Is it knocking at WOT or only at near WOT because those would be different loads
Old Oct 6, 2010, 11:11 AM
  #4  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
EVOXMAINE's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: bangor, me
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The .4 and .7 I get too!! I have heard it is because of our noisy clutch and not engine knock!!! you should be fine. The start up is probably for the same reason. Not engine knock, but just the noise picked up from some other moving part!!! Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Old Oct 16, 2010, 03:22 PM
  #5  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
ApexSilverXGSR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There's a thread dedicated to this topic... Don't remember what it was titled.

Basically any knock at low load is the engines way of conserving fuel by pulling timing (don't quote me on this).

Now, if you were get a knock reading of 2.4 at WOT then you're in trouble.

At low RPM and low load I can see knock anywhere from .7 to 1.4 when I'm barely touching the gas just getting out onto a road or even moving through parking lots. In that same drive I'll go WOT in 2nd or 3rd and won't see any knock at all. It will remain at 0 all the way through redline. ---- this is off a cobb stage 1 93 oct 1.07 map.

If you get knock >1 (anything at WOT greater than .7 is dangerous in my eyes), you should really reconsider going WOT until you get a good tune.

Cobb released an "official" report on low load knock readings on this forum for the evo x.

hope this helps
Old Oct 16, 2010, 04:04 PM
  #6  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
oftheheavens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: cherry point NC
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ApexSilverXGSR
There's a thread dedicated to this topic... Don't remember what it was titled.

Basically any knock at low load is the engines way of conserving fuel by pulling timing (don't quote me on this).

Now, if you were get a knock reading of 2.4 at WOT then you're in trouble.

At low RPM and low load I can see knock anywhere from .7 to 1.4 when I'm barely touching the gas just getting out onto a road or even moving through parking lots. In that same drive I'll go WOT in 2nd or 3rd and won't see any knock at all. It will remain at 0 all the way through redline. ---- this is off a cobb stage 1 93 oct 1.07 map.

If you get knock >1 (anything at WOT greater than .7 is dangerous in my eyes), you should really reconsider going WOT until you get a good tune.

Cobb released an "official" report on low load knock readings on this forum for the evo x.

hope this helps
cool yeah man i am going to dig a little deeper in the search to find that thread.

Update though, I think it may have been a combination of normal engine duties and bad gas. I was using the gas station on base to save cash, but i think they dilute (or whatever) their gas. I have used shell 93oct the last 3 fill ups, and used about 2-4 ounces of lucas fuel treatment/booster and have not had even .1 knock, in other words nothing.

I have a suspicion that the dealer put 87 octane in there to send me on my way, and I have had to work all that garbage out of the lines and what not. That coupled with the cheaper gas on base is what i think it was.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
evil03
09+ Ralliart Engine/Turbo/Drivetrain
25
May 12, 2011 09:32 AM
HELPr
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums
2
Mar 30, 2011 07:28 AM
AWDTerror
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums
3
Apr 6, 2010 01:09 PM
Stealth Ag
ECU Flash
11
Jul 3, 2009 09:08 AM
Clipse3GT
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums
2
Jun 4, 2009 02:30 PM



Quick Reply: Hard knock at start and soft through the gears.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:54 AM.