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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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The perfect tune for 91 octane gas and whp numbers

Hi all, I'm a new Evo owner and looking for practical ways to make it go faster. I've done quite a bit of research on intakes and have decided to purchase the AEM intake with the cold box. I'm looking to reach 300whp with mild bolt-ons w/ a tune running 91 octane gas. is this feasible and if so, is this map already available somewhere? (i have done searches but couldn't find something that was relevant, may not be looking hard enough)

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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Cobb Accessport...easy and effective. Their OTS tunes beat many "professional" custom tunes that I've seen too (I was one of them).
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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thanks for the replies. i was strongly considering on getting a custom tune but when the 2011 shelf maps come out i'll check those out. cobb ap isn't cheap but i believe it'll be worth the investment.

so now i'm considering the following:

- aem intake
- catback of some kind
- maybe a uicp

will i need anything else to safely reach 300whp using cobb's maps.

thanks
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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using a cobb accessport is going the wrong direction when you have a ecu as strong your car has on it. its pretty much as powerful as any standalone.. simple fuel and timing adjustments will make way more power over any cobb slap on tune if the person knows how to actually tune a car.
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
using a cobb accessport is going the wrong direction when you have a ecu as strong your car has on it. its pretty much as powerful as any standalone.. simple fuel and timing adjustments will make way more power over any cobb slap on tune if the person knows how to actually tune a car.
You might want to word this differently as the Cobb Accessport uses the stock Ecu as well, you make it sound like it's replacing it.

Originally Posted by eboru-shon_x
thanks for the replies. i was strongly considering on getting a custom tune but when the 2011 shelf maps come out i'll check those out. cobb ap isn't cheap but i believe it'll be worth the investment.

so now i'm considering the following:

- aem intake
- catback of some kind
- maybe a uicp

will i need anything else to safely reach 300whp using cobb's maps.

thanks
On a dynojet, a Evo 10 is a simple proper custom tune away from 300whp+. Even some strong Evo 10's can get close to 300whp, if not right at 300whp with just a tune, everything else stock, on lower reading Mustang dynos.
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ya i know what it is. trying to save the op from spending $600 on something that is no longer necessary anymore.
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:58 AM
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The Accessport w/software is no different than a laptop/ECUFlash/EvoScan/Tactrix cable. It does the exact same thing and works in the exact same way (I personally own both). If you don't like the Accessport that's fine, but stop spreading misinformation.

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
The Accessport w/software is no different than a laptop/ECUFlash/EvoScan/Tactrix cable. It does the exact same thing and works in the exact same way (I personally own both). If you don't like the Accessport that's fine, but stop spreading misinformation.
Ditto that. PLUS with an AP you have the ability to change maps on the fly with a cellphone sized gizmo you can keep in your glove box. On a road trip and can't get good gas? Switch to a 91Oct ACN map. Leaving your baby at the airport? Load up the "won't start" map and take your AP with you. Taking it into the stealership? Unmarry AP and you're back to stock.

For me I like the functionality and versatility. Yes you can do most (if not all) of these things with a laptop and tactrix, but the cable ain't free either and you can't put a laptop in your pocket or glove box. Many good tuners support the AP and have been getting great results with it. So for some of us it is a great solution.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
The Accessport w/software is no different than a laptop/ECUFlash/EvoScan/Tactrix cable. It does the exact same thing and works in the exact same way (I personally own both). If you don't like the Accessport that's fine, but stop spreading misinformation.
This.

Tactrix Cable: $169
Laptop: ~$400
ECUFlash: Free
EvoScan: $30
Tune from tuner: $ varies - not everyone likes to self tune. This comes with no base maps.
EDIT: Oh WBO2: $199
($800 before you add in any Tuner maps/work)

Cobb AP
$595
Developed maps to start you off on many common upgrades - free.

Cobb puts in some of the most work on their product. Really is second to none.

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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i was also interested in the coob ap at first but then just decided to go with ecuflash.i wanted the ap for the same reason you did.versitility.you can get custom tunes on ap anyways ,so you can use that instead of ots map..my sig has my mods and power for the x on 91.i wanted learn to log for safety reason and to know how my engine is responding .i want to add a wb gauge to for good measures.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Cobb Accessport...easy and effective. Their OTS tunes beat many "professional" custom tunes that I've seen too (I was one of them).
You are going to the wrong tuners if an OTS map yielded you better results than a custom tune
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Originally Posted by Jason@Spec-Ops
You are going to the wrong tuners if an OTS map yielded you better results than a custom tune
Maybe so, but my point stands. It was a very popular and reputable dyno-tuner that I've used for years with a variety of cars, but that's neither here nor there.
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The first sentence maybe... the 2nd is spreading just as much misinformation as the post you made to correct the other guy.

There will never be an OTS map that yields better results than a custom tune. I think that point stands pretty solid with plenty of data to support it.
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Spec-Ops
The first sentence maybe... the 2nd is spreading just as much misinformation as the post you made to correct the other guy.

There will never be an OTS map that yields better results than a custom tune. I think that point stands pretty solid with plenty of data to support it.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ven-gains.html

Never is a black/white word choice. I've already pointed to cost savings.
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Although Smike linked to my Cobb pro-tune, his point still remains valid; "never" is a very strong word and which claim can obviously not be backed up. The reason I went to them for tuning in the first place is because cars running their OTS maps were killing my car with similar mods on the dyno (same dyno, same day).



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