When running an FP Red setup with 1000cc injectors, I have heard mixed advice as to if you need to run an upgraded fuel pump? Can anyone give me a definitive answer to this. Goal is 400-420hp with an FP Red, 1000cc injectors and supporting basic bolt on mods.

Thanks guys

 

Yes. and why wouldnt you? Youre about to put thousands of dollars worth of mods on a 35K dollar car. The fuel pump is just about one of the cheapest mods for the car (I think a Walbro 255 is about $100) and will be cheap insurance to keep your motor from sploding.

 

Speaking with my tuner and a few other people, the stock fuel pump is good on pump gas up to 500hp...

 

Why ask us if you are going to believe them?

Spend $80 on a 255 and you will also need a fuel pump adapter kit and fuel filter too. It's not cheap, but you won't regret it.

You will not see 500whp or anything close to it on the stock fuel pump.

 

Any recommendations on kits?.

 

I don't think blaqops is available now so I'd probably see what MAP has to offer, should get the job done. Just make sure you also get an inline fuel filter as well as the new pump will eliminate the stock filter.

 

The Black Ops kit seems to fail more than any other, my guess is not supplying proper submersible fuel hose. I personally have the Cobb install kit, but if I were to do it all over again I'd used the new DW65 pump that just came out. It's a direct replacement for the stock X pump, no adapter kits required and it retains the stock fuel filter housing. For the kits removing the filter housing (such as all the Walbro 255 install kits) I wouldn't worry too much as long as you run the pump pick-up sock; many modern cars no longer even have any type of fuel filter besides the pump sock.

 

Not sure how you figure blaq ops kits fail, I have never heard of any problems its an install kit lol. I ran zip ties on my X for months as a ghetto DIY kit with some foam, worked great.

I do agree a fuel filter isn't the biggest deal as most fuel is so refined now its not really necessary. I ran filterless with my ghetto setup and it worked well.

 

ive also heard of those kits failing because of that same hose. not all of the kits fail , there just has been some that did with the same exact problem.

theres a thread on here about it.

 

I've seen many Blaq Ops failures, it's the hose, not the metal install ring. There are quite a few variations in rubber fuel hose, I'm sure some of their kits just included the cheap junk you get for $1/foot at Autozone rather than the $15/foot high pressure submersible hose.

 

Oh I guess I thought that starting happening when the guy who does the kits deployed to Afghanistan and someone else was making them or something. Regardless that's a little OT.

Go for the Cobb or MAP one then! But get a fuel pump.

 

Speaking of, check this out: http://www.maperformance.com/blog/20...e-performance/

 

When I was working on my previous project, I ran fuel hose on my in-tank assembly that wasn't the submersible high-pressure type. I can tell you that when I changed over to submersible hose, only a couple months later, the hose I had been using had the consistency of wet bread. I spent the cash on submersible stainless steel braided hose, and it was 1000% better (I switched to aluminum type hose fittings at the same time, in all it costed about $80). If you find a blaq-ops kit, I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to change the hose.

 

sounds like you might wanna find another tuner, too.

 

You will not make anywhere near 500hp on the stock pump reliably. The Map install kit is very nice.