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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 02:58 AM
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+ 1 mike..

I whip on cars a second faster than me... on a VHT/Meth mixed'd street :-P
yeah buddy!!

when my car was running 9.87 i was beating 9.0 powerglide cars.. Nothing can play with an AWD car on concrete. PERIOD..
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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no there isnt.. my car runs 9.5 and i whip on cars that run 8.8 on an unprepped track..
You said you didnt care about turning, now u say their isnt a better platform than an evo for going straight, get your facts straight.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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well, maybe the ECUFlash gurus can figure out how "tweak" the AYC response characteristics, now that might be cool

Originally Posted by chrsevx
Does mitsu plan on fixing their awd control systems lag by the next model evo? Or will mitsu have some sort of upgrade for the current X.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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I'm not sure if Mitsu will ever make the ECU controlling the AYC any more aggressive. The current set up is probably designed for safety to keep people on the road. If it was designed with some level of safety in mind, than it would make senese that it would sacrifice some driving feel and tossability of the car.

As pltek mentioned, it will likely be up to some of the tuners to figure out how to hack the ECU that controls AYC to make it more aggressive in how it performs.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Yea, I want to know if mitsu is planing on fixing that gremlin for the current evo X or for the next evo that comes out. If were to buy a evo X I know that would bother me and probabaly alot of other people. When diping left to right real quick, and the car feeling like it dosent want to react with the movements on time. I'm sure it would bother u also.
I suppose you have a slalom that you have to go through on your way to work everyday?? Comments like this are made by people who have never seen a track day in their lives...
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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True^, chrsevx the ayc isn't slow reacting, I don't know who you've talked to but that's not the case from the reviews I've read. The ayc just feels a little wierd when you're getting used to it. It feels like the car is going to oversteer too much and spin around, but just when you're about to **** your pants, it stops rotating. It just takes some getting used to, and then once you know how the car drives, you can exploit it to it's fullest. Watch the most recent video review from Road and Track where they have the car sideways through all of the turns. Badass.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
You said you didnt care about turning, now u say their isnt a better platform than an evo for going straight, get your facts straight.
What are you talking about?? I said i dont care about anything but going forward and there is not a better platform than AWD for going straight.. so what facts are you talking about?? im curious where i lost you in that statement..
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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^ his statement didn't make any sense at all.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Yea right thats not what I heard from people who test drove it they say when turning left to right as if they were going to weave in and out of traffic the car does not feel altogether, I know you guys like the evo x but it is what it is.
Where do you race that you do a lot of slaloms? Or why are you continually weaving in and out of traffic? If you turn left, then right real quick you'd be fine. The only place that this issue you're talking about is if you're doing car chase scenes in fast and the furious. Why go left, right, left, right, left right on public roads? The car has more than ample grip to swerve quickly to avoid a car.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cow town racer
^ his statement didn't make any sense at all.
i guess my english is bad.. I dont know.. i read it 10x over and looks clear to me..
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Please stay on topic.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Well my guess is it'd be quite f'in hard to fix response time, I mean besides constantly upgrading the speed of the internal computer and making the code more efficient. You're talking bout going left then hard right and it takes what? half a second to feel the ayc kick in? You have to remember you are having those sensors read, then get sent to the computer, then get the readings processed and have it figure out what wheels need what, then they need to send it back out and it'll adjust power, but that won't happen intially because there's already being power sent to the wheels so it probably has imo I haven't driven one, but half a second or less before you feel it? My question to you is, how the hell do you even care or notice? The car was designed to do it that way, so why would they fix it? I can see speeding up response time, but there's ALWAYS going to be a "lag"
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Yea, I want to know if mitsu is planing on fixing that gremlin for the current evo X or for the next evo that comes out. If were to buy a evo X I know that would bother me and probabaly alot of other people. When diping left to right real quick, and the car feeling like it dosent want to react with the movements on time. I'm sure it would bother u also.

did u drive the car yourself hard in and out of turns?

-Steve
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cow town racer
No and No, the more advanced system takes longer time to process. As a result you get a lagged response. It's the nature of the beast.
Agreed.
Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
It's perfect on auto x and road race courses, it's just that it makes the car a handful on the slalom.
I don't know why some of you guys are thinking that the X is not a good slalom car. The MR that R&T tested did 72.4 mph in the slalom (page 43). That was 2.6 mph faster than the STI in the test! This is with the AYC on, Tarmac mode on, and ASC off.
If you want to know how 72.4 mph in this R&T standard test stacks up against other cars besides the STI, take a look at their road test summary back on page 98 and 99 where they give stats including slalom mph for about 128 cars they've tested in the last couple years.
I found exactly 5 cars that did faster than 72.4 mph. Five. FIVE.
0 Audi's, 0 BMW's, 0 Lamborghini's, 0 Mercedes, 0 Saleens.
There was 1 Ferrari, the Enzo at 73.0
There was 1 Porsche, a 911 GT3 RS at 73.2
There was 1 Lotus, an Exige S at 73.1
There was the Caterham CSR at 79.8
And the Superformance Coupe at 76.6

They tested an Evo RS in 2006 that did 69.7
The Evo X GSR in the current test did 71.7 so it's a little slower than the MR but still pretty darned good. The MR was a little faster than the GSR in most of the handling and track tests, due to the Bilstein/Eibach suspension, the TC-SST tranny, and I don't know maybe it had different tires.

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