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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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I agree, I was just saying what the editor said about it having more oversteer than is ideal in the slalom, but that the benefits in every other category are excellent. You took what I said out of context. Read the whole post. The other guy who was knocking the ayc is who you should be addressing.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hel_if_ino
I suppose you have a slalom that you have to go through on your way to work everyday?? Comments like this are made by people who have never seen a track day in their lives...
Yea in and out of traffic. Theirs my slalam coarse bud.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@UspMotorsports
What are you talking about?? I said i dont care about anything but going forward and there is not a better platform than AWD for going straight.. so what facts are you talking about?? im curious where i lost you in that statement..
I'm 'talkin about you being wrong you said their is not a better platform than an evo for going straight you don't know what your talking about. 03-04 mustangs can go much faster down a straight than a evo.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bfdd
Well my guess is it'd be quite f'in hard to fix response time, I mean besides constantly upgrading the speed of the internal computer and making the code more efficient. You're talking bout going left then hard right and it takes what? half a second to feel the ayc kick in? You have to remember you are having those sensors read, then get sent to the computer, then get the readings processed and have it figure out what wheels need what, then they need to send it back out and it'll adjust power, but that won't happen intially because there's already being power sent to the wheels so it probably has imo I haven't driven one, but half a second or less before you feel it? My question to you is, how the hell do you even care or notice? The car was designed to do it that way, so why would they fix it? I can see speeding up response time, but there's ALWAYS going to be a "lag"
A half a second could be to late when trying to avoid an accident.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by N1te
Where do you race that you do a lot of slaloms? Or why are you continually weaving in and out of traffic? If you turn left, then right real quick you'd be fine. The only place that this issue you're talking about is if you're doing car chase scenes in fast and the furious. Why go left, right, left, right, left right on public roads? The car has more than ample grip to swerve quickly to avoid a car.
When I weave in and out of cars I want to be able to do it as quick as possible. And it seems to me that with a evo x that could be an issue. Let alone trying to drift back and forth whether it be on a track or street.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve@TopLevelAuto
did u drive the car yourself hard in and out of turns?
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No I did'nt but from what ive seen and read it is a real issue.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Talonboost
I don't know why some of you guys are thinking that the X is not a good slalom car. The MR that R&T tested did 72.4 mph in the slalom (page 43). That was 2.6 mph faster than the STI in the test! This is with the AYC on, Tarmac mode on, and ASC off.
If you want to know how 72.4 mph in this R&T standard test stacks up against other cars besides the STI, take a look at their road test summary back on page 98 and 99 where they give stats including slalom mph for about 128 cars they've tested in the last couple years.
I found exactly 5 cars that did faster than 72.4 mph. Five. FIVE.
0 Audi's, 0 BMW's, 0 Lamborghini's, 0 Mercedes, 0 Saleens.
There was 1 Ferrari, the Enzo at 73.0
There was 1 Porsche, a 911 GT3 RS at 73.2
There was 1 Lotus, an Exige S at 73.1
There was the Caterham CSR at 79.8
And the Superformance Coupe at 76.6

They tested an Evo RS in 2006 that did 69.7
The Evo X GSR in the current test did 71.7 so it's a little slower than the MR but still pretty darned good. The MR was a little faster than the GSR in most of the handling and track tests, due to the Bilstein/Eibach suspension, the TC-SST tranny, and I don't know maybe it had different tires.

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According to edmunds the slalam time for the evo x time was the same as the evo 9, with issue with the back end hitting a couple of cones from slidding out.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Yea right thats not what I heard from people who test drove it they say when turning left to right as if they were going to weave in and out of traffic the car does not feel altogether, I know you guys like the evo x but it is what it is.
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You mean ayc is doing its thing after lagging.
It doesn't lag, it eliminates understeer and creates oversteer. You need to drive one instead of only reading things in print or on the web so you can better understand the system; there is no "lag", the transition is seemless to the driver. SAYC as it is now has been in place since the Evo VIII overseas. Turn off the ASC and all the car does is go fast.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
It doesn't lag, it eliminates understeer and creates oversteer. You need to drive one instead of only reading things in print or on the web so you can better understand the system; there is no "lag", the transition is seemless to the driver. SAYC as it is now has been in place since the Evo VIII overseas. Turn off the ASC and all the car does is go fast.
Turning off asc reduces the handling capabilty of the car.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Turning off asc reduces the handling capabilty of the car.
no it doesnt, the ASC is basically traction control. If you leave it on and take a hard turn in the rain lets say, as you exit the turn the car loses traction the car cuts off power to the wheels.

I dont want to sound like a ****, but please go and drive the car before making all these assumptions and judgements. You have to drive it to see how it works.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
When I weave in and out of cars I want to be able to do it as quick as possible. And it seems to me that with a evo x that could be an issue. Let alone trying to drift back and forth whether it be on a track or street.

Clearly you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Believe me, we can tell by some of your statements.

#1 - have you driven an Evo X?

#2 - the Evo X SAWC system can react WAY FASTER than you ever can!! So don't even think for a second that the SAWC system is lacking.....when 99% of the time the driver is way behind the system!

It's one of the most advanced systems in the world....and all you care about is when it can be updated?

It's like saying....when is Mitsu going to release a 1,000hp Evo? I won't buy one until then! Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by steinvb12
#2 - the Evo X SAWC system can react WAY FASTER than you ever can!! So don't even think for a second that the SAWC system is lacking.....when 99% of the time the driver is way behind the system!
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Yea in and out of traffic. Theirs my slalam coarse bud.
Originally Posted by chrsevx
A half a second could be to late when trying to avoid an accident.
"Theirs my slalam coarse bud."

What the hell are you talking about?

People like you are the reason why our insurance rates are so high. Stupid kids thinking the highway is a test course.

You have no idea what the SAWC system does, and quite frankly, you have no idea about anything. Your a total idiot.

Stay off the road before you make yourself apart of it, or worse, take someone else out while you're at it.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Turning off asc reduces the handling capabilty of the car.
Wrong. It increases it. Stop reading and start driving. Seriously, the internet racing and misinformation needs to stop.
Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
Turning off asc reduces the handling capabilty of the car.
You are definately confused about how the ASC works.



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