DTM New X FMIC
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What I am saying is : I don't think you will have ANY problems what so ever passing a smog test for a FMIC.
Do you have a charter or statute that we can see and read to confirm?
From what I have seen and heard, I can't understand why you would have an issue.
Unless the ****'s have invaded CA... j/k
Do you have a charter or statute that we can see and read to confirm?
From what I have seen and heard, I can't understand why you would have an issue.
Unless the ****'s have invaded CA... j/k
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YEA, so i have never owned a turbo car before, so my knowledge on FMIC's is slim to none. thanks for clearing things up. as of now, your product looks 10x more attractive 
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
all i care about is whose core are you using?
Can you share that with me, pm me if you want, or is it a big secret?
Can you share that with me, pm me if you want, or is it a big secret?
Yes it surely does. If someone is basing the purchase of said intercooler, on the fact that it can capacitate or "make 1000 hp" means that they are purely looking at the highest "numerical value" and guessing that it will outperform others. Completely untrue and misleading.
Charge temp is THE most important factor in designing an intercooler as a whole. Along with that, end tank design, inlet and outlet velocity and the proper surface area. Those three items I just described, put together, directly and indirectly affect what our charge temps will be after the IC outlet.
How do you now WHAT the best FMIC is?
You say you would rather buy the best right? How do you know this one is not? I can assure you that we didn't just piece some sheetmetal together and call it a day
I said and I quote: "This 3.5" core has the ability to 1280 CFM"
With that said, it has been tested at 25 psi of clean air pressure through the the core.
A thicker core, DOES NOT mean it is a better unit. There are ALOT of variables to take into consideration. One of those factors is whether or not the inlet charge is being cooled at the same rate as it would be on the back side of the thicker core. When airflow passes thru the fin surface area it will slow and heat up as it exchanges heat from the first few inches. Has anyone posted conclusive data to prove that a 4" or 4.5" core will flow or be as efficient as a 2', 2.5', 3' or 3.5' core?
I also never stated that this core will only flow efficiently for 400hp. The stocker is good for 350. The one we designed can flow upward of 800+ with great efficiency. So when I say, do you need 1000hp, I actually mean it. Why would a core that is claimed to support 1000hp be better than a 700 hp core? It doesn't make any sense. If you can make 1000hp on 50 psi with one core, but make 1000 on 42psi....wouldn't that say something about the validity of your claim? NO ONE has shown any evidence of this. And no one probably will.
I never said anything about it fitting your needs for monetary purposes. Fitting the needs of the customer based on the goal of the car and how much airflow the engine will process.
Thank you
Charge temp is THE most important factor in designing an intercooler as a whole. Along with that, end tank design, inlet and outlet velocity and the proper surface area. Those three items I just described, put together, directly and indirectly affect what our charge temps will be after the IC outlet.
How do you now WHAT the best FMIC is?
You say you would rather buy the best right? How do you know this one is not? I can assure you that we didn't just piece some sheetmetal together and call it a day
I said and I quote: "This 3.5" core has the ability to 1280 CFM"
With that said, it has been tested at 25 psi of clean air pressure through the the core.
A thicker core, DOES NOT mean it is a better unit. There are ALOT of variables to take into consideration. One of those factors is whether or not the inlet charge is being cooled at the same rate as it would be on the back side of the thicker core. When airflow passes thru the fin surface area it will slow and heat up as it exchanges heat from the first few inches. Has anyone posted conclusive data to prove that a 4" or 4.5" core will flow or be as efficient as a 2', 2.5', 3' or 3.5' core?
I also never stated that this core will only flow efficiently for 400hp. The stocker is good for 350. The one we designed can flow upward of 800+ with great efficiency. So when I say, do you need 1000hp, I actually mean it. Why would a core that is claimed to support 1000hp be better than a 700 hp core? It doesn't make any sense. If you can make 1000hp on 50 psi with one core, but make 1000 on 42psi....wouldn't that say something about the validity of your claim? NO ONE has shown any evidence of this. And no one probably will.
I never said anything about it fitting your needs for monetary purposes. Fitting the needs of the customer based on the goal of the car and how much airflow the engine will process.
Thank you
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YEA, so i have never owned a turbo car before, so my knowledge on FMIC's is slim to none. thanks for clearing things up. as of now, your product looks 10x more attractive
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
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YEA, so i have never owned a turbo car before, so my knowledge on FMIC's is slim to none. thanks for clearing things up. as of now, your product looks 10x more attractive
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
also, did you say that a catback exhaust WILL NOT effect the passing of a smog test? cause landis507 was wondering if catback, IC pipes, intake and FMIC would effect the smog test and you said no, but i always thought that the catback eliminated the front cats, the car would fail the smog test
I would imagine that you can get the info you need about what can and cannot be changed without a CARB cert from CARB or your local testing stations.
and to DTM,
Very nice product and very nice factual explanation, I was gonna jump in and provide some of that info had you not. Sometimes the most difficult part of product development is re setting customer expectation or mentality
Last edited by Mad_SB; Mar 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM.
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