Doesn't cosworth make a M3 item in addition to the mx1 with different lift?

 

For the Evo VIII/IX yes, but the Evolution X, no. It is listed erroneously on a few vendor websites however it is not in Cosworth's catalog.

 

Any updates on Kelford cams?

 

+1 Im in the same situation. I debating which cams I should get.

 

Not wanting to hi-jack this thread but on a similar theme...any views on how the mild Kelford cams (with Kelford's valve spring set) would run with an FP Red?

In a couple of weeks I'm getting various parts fitted (full Nisei pipe kit, TBE with HFC - and a tune)...and just wondering if I should get the Kelford mild cams fitted at the same time.

However, there's a slim chance I'll upgrade to an FP Red later down the line...so I don't want to fit the mild cams if they don't work well with the FP Red. My car is a DD and I'm not after huge numbers...I just want as much as I can get as low in the rev range as possible.

The FP Red appears to have reasonable response for a bolt on turbo - perhaps in conjunction with the mild Kelford cams it will be even more responsive?

Any thoughts on this - or has anyone combined the two? I'm no expert on this stuff and don't want to make an expensive mistake.

 

As far as I know Kelford has Stage 1 and Stage 2 cams. The mild ones are Stage 1 and they work with stock springs. More agressive Stage 2 cams require Kelford spring set.
So which ones are you referring to as "mild", Stage 1 or Stage 2?

 

I'm referring to the Stage 1 Kelford cams (214-A). From what I can tell they can also be used with the Kelford springs (if you want to).

http://www.camshaftshop.co.nz/index...._view.tpl.html

But please correct me if I'm wrong - as I say, I'm no expert on this stuff.

 

bump for some more info on cam testing...anyone with the kelford stage 2 yet?

im still debating on the cosworth mx1 or kelford stage 2 to get installed when i get my Red in. I know the Red makes alot of power up top so i was thinking the kelford stage 2 would allow me to get to that power with the upgraded valve springs...but i feel the mx1 would give me a broader power range.

Would the stage 2 kelfords allow me to rev higher and get that top end power more than the mx1's? as in would only the upgraded valve springs allow me to rev higher?

 

I talked to Kelford personally about the Kelford stage 2's and they told me this:

Dave,



No we didn’t try them on stock turbo, but one of our UK customers has and he likes them. I don’t have his dyno sheet though.

Personally I think they are a bit big for the stock unit, we really made them for GT35r turbo sizing.



Regards,



Kevin Ban

Managing Director

Kelford Cams & Camshaft Shop


So you could run them on the stock turbo, but who knows how tough they will be to tune, I don't think anyone has tuned them on the stock turbo with ECUflash or other stock ecu tool.

I was going to do them on the stock turbo and be the first but I decided I am going to go with the Cosworth so I don't have to completely pull my head, because if I had to I mind as well replace a bunch of crap.

Ps. I was looking for a cam to max teh stock turbo and be a little rough and still make good gains on an FPred when I get one later on, so I am going to try the cosworth, I should have results in a few weeks.

 

OH kelford said this as well...

Dave,



They just fitted the springs, no other parts. I don’t know what they did as far as mapping go’s but they are using MoteC.





Regards,



Kevin Ban

Managing Director

Kelford Cams & Camshaft Shop

 

^What modifications will you have on your vehicle with the Cosworth cams?

 

I have what's in my sig right now and here is what I am going to order hopefully next week:

Deatschwerks 1000cc's injectors
255 fuel pump
AMS UICP
Cosworth Cams
E-85 awesomeness

Should make for an interesting mix, I am feeling saucy.

 

its going to be a few months for me to tune but i will be tuning on the stock turbo. can i use the stage 1 cams and not tune them and be ok or will i need to wait and install them before the tune?

 

We are going to be installing kelford stage 2 cams in a proven stock turbo evo x gsr shortly. Customer is waiting on arp head studs and we will be testing.

I will update this thread as soon as we get the ball rolling.

 

I assume you are still going to be using ECUflash?

Is this the car that is running C16 I am assuming?