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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by J5isalive2
Spend 2.5k and you will have a fun car.

Intercooler
Upper Intercooler Pipe
Exhaust
Cobb Turbo Inlet
Drop In Filter
Test Pipe
TUNE

There you go, best bang for the buck...
Yeah that is about what I was thinking, but minus the intercooler. I need to research the intercooler thing and understand "the need" for it. I live in Phoenix which has very high temperatures, so I was somewhat under the impressions that the intercooler might help in this area?

I just threw out the 350 number - honestly it doesn't matter since its just a number. I do want to get rid of the horrible lag before 3000 RPM right now - before then the car feels dead. And of course once I hit about 7000 RPM the car falls on its face. If the entire powerband felt like it does when the car is between 3000 and 5000 RPM, I'd be very happy.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Vahu no worries lol, but im not sure what your trying to get across? saying that this was an unstable route? by having cams in my car? or what lol? Im just curious for future referrance, the rest where boltons baically. Just want to know how it is unsafe?
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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thtpel, nothing was directly toward you but posts like yours. The unsafe part that I'm referring to was expecting 350 uncorrected at the wheels with the upgrades listed. Especially considering what the OP has to work with (91 pump, not wanting to push boost or modify engine internals). He would have a hard time getting safely and reliably to an uncorrected 350. Unless he had one of the freaks from the factory line, but that would account for pushing boost, etc. which the OP doesn't seem to want to do. I'm glad you didn't taking anything personally as that wasn't my intent.

Again OP, get the baseline at whatever (with a tune), do some runs, add more and get to where you want, rinse, repeat. I mentioned Buschur's site previously. I went stage 3 (cosi 272s), added headstuds, added a wideband, better boost controller, and 50/50 meth + tuned for all that and I'm enjoying the power. If E85 is readily available to you I would recommend that as well (upgraded fuel pump and injectors + tune).

Realize that you are driving a turbo'd 4-banger so it is difficult to battle the lag. Look into porting, coating, hard pipes, etc. that should improve spool, or start looking at a stroker. Look at Buschur's Project White which is an insane street beast, but still starts really making power (torque is probably what you're after to battle low-end lag) after 3000 rpm.

You mentioned the IC and that you live in AZ. If you plan on tracking the car or expecting prolonged boost you will likely find your turbo getting heat soaked and not keep up without cooling down. An upgraded IC is something you should think about.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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ah, i got ya know lol, well yea i did take a few more steps lol, then just putting those on does take a little work and nice tuning. Believe me lol would never risk anything wish i still had the dyno sheets so you could see what i was talking bout lol anyways you do speak the truth
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