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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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ANY Fp RED FAILURES??

Hi guys,

I am currently running an fp red on my fully forged motor, was just wondering what boost levels people run these at and if there have been any failures?

On the FP site they state it can handle in excess of 35psi and I wondered if anyone runs this amount of boost on a daily driver??? I will be having the car mapped soon and dont want to push silly boost if the turbo will be out of its efficiency or sh*t itself

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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I'm making over 450 whp on E85 @ 30psi.

It is not daily driven. If I did daily drive it, it would be just like this though.


A guy on here, Ryan Gates, was running over 30 psi of boost, 110, or 109 octane and making well over 450 as well... his car is tracked quite often.

There are a lot of guys just at, or above 400whp with the FP reds.

I think they really start shining above 29-30 psi.

Good luck.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Cheers for the reply dude its much appreciated, I will let you guys know what it does. My previous DOM2 made 420whp so I expect a bit more with the red So you reckon between 30-35psi should be o.k???

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Oh yeah we will be running 99 ron u.k pump fuel only...
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Well seeing how the Evo X Red is different from the Evo VIII/IX Red, I can't help you much. I know TTP just tuned a IX on stock block with an FP Red to 590whp at 40.2psi (link at bottom). So my guess is if that could handle 40, I'm sure yours could handle 30-35 but I'm not telling you to go do that immediately because, like I said, they are two different turbos.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ttp-tuned.html
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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And here's a quote from TTP (on the VIII/IX Red)

I believe he has the FP actuator 18psi, but I believe the stock unit would be able to hit 40 or so psi.

The turbo is capable of 43-45psi ful full tilt, however at the track at high rpm use it will peak in the 36psi range.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Evo X Red is smaller than an Evo 8-9 red.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Post removed, logged on wrong account. Mods please remove this username

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Evo X Red is smaller than an Evo 8-9 red.
looks like i have the wrong turbo then....
what should i do on my evo gt30r or the atp 35r bolt on?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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SO HAS ANYONE HAD A RED FOR THE EVO X FAIL?

My car revs to 8800 and is used on track aswell as a daily driver... would 35psi be a wise choice then?

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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no, i havent, only way to kill a turbo is to starve it for oil or overspeed the turbo, i dont think this would be an issue on these....

basically you will be able to tell what it can do while tuning it
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Mine is a DD on a stock block with headstuds. My first tune had a plateau of 27psi, likely due to a sticky WGA (the 18psi one that fp sends with the turbo). For whatever reason, the stickiness went away after driving and I was hitting 31 - 32psi (untuned, so I didn't push it).

I'm going for a retune tomorrow and will let you know where it sits on a fairly conservative tune. On the original tune with the 27psi plateau, I was at ~430whp (I think that hit at 6k, but I forget), and it would just sit there until we let off. I have all bolt-ons + cams + Magnus cast intake, and running crappy 92 octane + 100% meth (M10 nozzle that starts to squirt at ~9psi, with full flow at 18psi or so).

Whoops, mine is on a IX.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GUM EVO X
SO HAS ANYONE HAD A RED FOR THE EVO X FAIL?

My car revs to 8800 and is used on track aswell as a daily driver... would 35psi be a wise choice then?

Kind Regards,
GUM
I would think on a built motor, 35 would a solid target.

Palmer - I'm not too familiar with the ATP. If I was going to go bigger would likely go with the HTA 3586R based on what I've seen on local cars.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Hello again,

Anymore views on 35psi with an FP red, tuners are welcome to give input too

Kind regards,
GUM
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GUM EVO X
Oh yeah we will be running 99 ron u.k pump fuel only...
Good luck running boost higher than the high 20's on just that fuel. 99 RON is about 94 octane here in the US. At higher than 30 psi, you have bigger worries than failure of the Red.
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