Maybe 9sec9.com should make these for the X.



http://9sec9.com/shop/article_CF-000...%3DCF-00001%26

 

I EDITED my post, because my OP was out of line, and I recognized it (thanks to whatever mod edited the original title, it is far more respectable). Now its just become a "BASH HR2L Thread". Thanks Guys.

To ETS, I apologize if you had a chance to read my OP, I was frustrated with my prolonged situation with my car being down, my turbo taking a dump, and many other issues with my car the past 1.5 months. I do however feel there needs to be a "true resolution to this" in terms of some sort of part or shield that is included with this kit. I guess I was misinformed about the Jet Coating 2200 and what it can do to control heat that the manifold produces/lets off.

Sorry for ruffling everyones feathers here, seems to be allot of ETS Fan Boys here, that have never been frustrated with a situation and have made the mistake of "Speaking before Thinking". Guess I'm not allowed to be human, and make a mistake (even though I corrected it by editing my OP). As for Force Fed, I was actually told that the Jet Coat should elevate most of the heat issues, but was misinformed (or I misunderstood). Either way, I apologize to the EVOM community for this debacle.

MOD's PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD.

I will deal with this personally (with both ETS and Force Fed). There is already another thread about this exact issue by Hiboost, so there is no need for this rant thread, that has seem to set allot off. Once again I apologize for being human and upset, and setting allot of you EVOM memebers off with my OP (for those who got to actually read it). Guess sympathy will not be found around here.

Thanks for all the insight Hiboost and to everyone else for there insight on how to solve this temporarily. Hey Hiboost, did you end up replacing the melted adapter? If so how much was it from ? Can't even get it off because its that badly melted.

Thanks.

 

I'm positive that ETS and Force fed will take care of you.

 

I never replaced the plug since it seemed to still be running fine with only one edge melted and it felt like it "could" be removed if need be but I didn't want to force it unless I had a replacement in hand. If you find out a price quote from the dealer I think only the upper plug and wiring harness needs to be replaced.

I switched to the Full-race manifold because I thought my ETS was leaking, but it turned out to just be the gasket. For stock turbo or mid-sized turbos the Full-race seems to be well sized to deliver low and mid range gains. For Mid to large sized turbos the ETS has strong mid-top end gains. I've never seen comarative data for Jun but if someone that has it can measure the outside diameter that could give us an idea. Honestly there has been very little dyno info on the tubular manifolds in general.

 

It'd be nice to see vendors actually doing hot swaps with their manifolds (Well, not LITERALLY hot swap, as that'd burn ) and do some back to back dyno testing. I know manifold testing in the Evo8/9 world has always been a cluster-fu*k of vendor vs. vendor, but I'd love to see Full Race just dyno the stock one, turn the car off, strap their's on, and then post the results.

At some point, the fact that no vendors seem to be doing that speak volumes.

 

Cool, I will find out how much it cost to replace and let you know. Im def going to give the DEI Cool Tape a run (Vic Hubbard up here in Nor-Cal has it on-hand), looks to work up to 2000 deg so it should/hoopefully help. There really isn't any other area that looks to be of major concern. If you know of any other section you would recommend wrapping with it please LMK!

 

I agree bro on that any company needs to give heat warnings.I had an evo x catch fire in the shop due to an ETS downpipe too close to the OEM powersteering line. All it took was a zip tie to pull the line away and they never said that with the kit. But always think before you type hah

 

I asked LVS about his JUN manifold and he said no heat issues because it's thicker than USDM manifolds. Interesting.

 

Interesting, guess it must be a standards thing? The JUN mani was just too pricey for my blood, but guess maybe thats why they say you get what you pay for.

Like I've said, and it seems Hiboost agrees, ETS and other Tubular Manifold Producers for the EVO X need to come up with a solution for that small problem and include it in there kit (shield, heat tape).

 

looks like ets fixed this good 4 the you

 

To the OP, i replied to your PM and am VERY VERY sorry you are not pleased with your purchase of the Manifold. We deal with ETS everyday and we will be sure to work with you and them on a solution to your problem. We JUST(friday night) installed a ETS mani on a X as well as a dom2 turbo along with yours and we coated it ourselves and it stays almost cool enough to grab the manifold with the car at operating temps. We also saw 400hp/331ftlbs after the install of this on pump gas on our mustang dyno. As far as gains they are VERY VERY good with this manifold/turbo but we have used 2-3 of these on local cars and have 0 issues with the melting plug. The customer we just installed it for is wrapping the sensor/plug wiht cool tape just in case tho. Please PM me and I will talk with Mike@ETS about what we can do for you sir

Justin

 

Thank you for your immediate response to this situation.

I can GUARANTEE you my Exhaust Manifold does NOT stay as cool as what you have just mentioned/described above with it being cool enough to almost grab during operating temps. Possibly a bad Jet Coat job?

As for where we go from here, Really not sure. I definitely know that a heatshield adapter would be something that would benefit us users who use the car as a DD where long term heat exposure is going to be most common. If you look at my pic (the third) you can see there is an area that has a bolt where we might be able to mount some sort of small heat shield for that specific area. If not at least the mani should have come with some the DEI Cool Tape for that area, as well as instructions on what to protect.

I hope this information is forwarded to ETS so they become aware of the situation (as it has affected more then one user and has been noted/documented). And hopefully they come up with a resolution that would best suit the needs of all types of users of there manifold.

Im going to have to figure out how to even get that clip off, as it melted enough to damage the shaping of the part so it will no longer disconnect. I will probably have to replace it completely. I hope this thread as well as Hiboosts are noted and addressed for future customers.

 

I promise you i will look into it this week and see what we can do for ya man. I hate when someone isnt happy when they spend their hard earned money on a product and arent satisfied with the results.

 

Curious - what does that plug connect to?

 

Looks this manifold will need a HEAVY coating from Swain Tech, Jet Hot, etc.