Ceramic Coating
Jan 22, 2010, 12:59 PM
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I'd read this thread thread (i've linked it below) before getting involved with an Exhaust Manifold. Mine is Jet Coated 2200 and I'm still having problems. I'm contemplating going back to the stock mani (having it ported) as I really didn't see gains to justify the $900 (after Jet Coat). I'd do a bit of research and save yourself the headaches i've been going through. Theres just too many vital hoses and parts that are exposed to immense amount of heat that use to be protected by the heat shield. Also, don't know where you read that you can make a ton more power on the stock turbo...its just not true (@ least not HP to $$$ ratio) your money can be better spent other places that will get you more power with less longevity issues. Just my 2 cents though.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...esolution.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...esolution.html
Jan 22, 2010, 01:02 PM
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I'd read this thread thread (i've linked it below) before getting involved with an Exhaust Manifold. Mine is Jet Coated 2200 and I'm still having problems. I'm contemplating going back to the stock mani (having it ported) as I really didn't see gains to justify the $900 (after Jet Coat). I'd do a bit of research and save yourself the headaches i've been going through. Theres just too many vital hoses and parts that are exposed to immense amount of heat that use to be protected by the heat shield. Just my 2 cents though.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...esolution.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...esolution.html
On an OEM X, you have the heatshield to help protect all these misc hoses and sensors, but how effective is the heatsheild on keeping heat retained in the manifold.
If it was me, I would take the time to wrap any hoses and plugs with heat reflective wrap and hose sleeves. DEI makes many products to help with this type of install/situation and I'm sure other companies do as well.
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...sp?m=sc&cid=10
Everyone I know that installs a sidewinder turbo manifold on an RSX always takes the time to coat/wrap their manifold and wrap all of the hoses and wires with heat reflective sleeves and/or silver/gold wrap. This is because the firewall is packed with misc crap that can potentially melt or even worse start a fire! I believe doing so would have definitely helped your situation.
-Jalal
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Jan 22, 2010, 01:06 PM
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I've never done an install on a X but I do know the manifold is in close proximity to many hoses and sensors, etc.
On an OEM X, you have the heatshield to help protect all these misc hoses and sensors, but how effective is the heatsheild on keeping heat retained in the manifold.
If it was me, I would take the time to wrap any hoses and plugs with heat reflective wrap and hose sleeves. DEI makes many products to help with this type of install/situation and I'm sure other companies do as well.
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...sp?m=sc&cid=10
Everyone I know that installs a sidewinder turbo manifold on an RSX always takes the time to coat/wrap their manifold and wrap all of the hoses and wires with heat reflective sleeves and/or silver/gold wrap. I believe doing so would have definitely helped your situation.
-Jalal
On an OEM X, you have the heatshield to help protect all these misc hoses and sensors, but how effective is the heatsheild on keeping heat retained in the manifold.
If it was me, I would take the time to wrap any hoses and plugs with heat reflective wrap and hose sleeves. DEI makes many products to help with this type of install/situation and I'm sure other companies do as well.
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...sp?m=sc&cid=10
Everyone I know that installs a sidewinder turbo manifold on an RSX always takes the time to coat/wrap their manifold and wrap all of the hoses and wires with heat reflective sleeves and/or silver/gold wrap. I believe doing so would have definitely helped your situation.
-Jalal
Jan 22, 2010, 01:13 PM
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I can understand why I would want to do this if I were swapping manifolds but I am keeping the stock one. Just trying to "better" the factory manifold and reduce a bit of heat. I don't think it's necessary to wrap any hoses or plugs if keeping with all factory components especially if I ceramic coat the mani and turbo which will only help reduce heat.
I concur!
-Jalal
Jan 22, 2010, 01:33 PM
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Jan 22, 2010, 01:58 PM
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not that i'm any sort of expert... as I just realize last night I put my test pipe on the wrong way, but I heard from a lot of people that as tough as ceramic coating is, it won't hold up for to long.. the temps that these turbos and such get is just to much, maybe if it only got hot for a few seconds at a time, but this is consistant temperatures we are talking and freakin hot ones at that.
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not that i'm any sort of expert... as I just realize last night I put my test pipe on the wrong way, but I heard from a lot of people that as tough as ceramic coating is, it won't hold up for to long.. the temps that these turbos and such get is just to much, maybe if it only got hot for a few seconds at a time, but this is consistant temperatures we are talking and freakin hot ones at that.
But a ceramic coating like HPC's is garbage. SwainTech is legit, so are a few others.
Jan 22, 2010, 04:43 PM
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These guys do all my stuff.
http://www.ccperformance.com/
Awesome to work with, affordable and have this gunmetal 2000 degree coating that is killer! I use it on my O2 downpipe on the x and will be coating my new manifold, turbine housing and downpipe for the GT35R setup as well. BTW, they are also doing my GTR manifolds/downpipes.
http://www.ccperformance.com/
Awesome to work with, affordable and have this gunmetal 2000 degree coating that is killer! I use it on my O2 downpipe on the x and will be coating my new manifold, turbine housing and downpipe for the GT35R setup as well. BTW, they are also doing my GTR manifolds/downpipes.
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But really, a loss of a couple hundred RPM spool threshold can be accomplished with a little tuning. Wasting a couple hundred bux on coatings that have a finite lifespan really isn't worth it.
On an aftermarket tubular manifold, completely different story. But stock, not worth it...
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lol engine tuning is a bit more complicated than the ideal gas law...
But really, a loss of a couple hundred RPM spool threshold can be accomplished with a little tuning. Wasting a couple hundred bux on coatings that have a finite lifespan really isn't worth it.
On an aftermarket tubular manifold, completely different story. But stock, not worth it...
But really, a loss of a couple hundred RPM spool threshold can be accomplished with a little tuning. Wasting a couple hundred bux on coatings that have a finite lifespan really isn't worth it.
On an aftermarket tubular manifold, completely different story. But stock, not worth it...
ps. why didn't you go to the meet last month? i wanted to check out your bbx.