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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Sorry, couldn't tell you. The baseline dyno was with all the bolt-ons, so we don't have a good before/after.
This is why a baseline dyno run is good to get. Im glad I got mine taken care of before I installed my mods..
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Will this pass emissions ? (and I don't mean OBDII testing)
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxin
Will this pass emissions ? (and I don't mean OBDII testing)
Should, because majority (if not all) smog stations do not have an AWD/4WD Dyno. So all test are free (no load) rev so you wont produce as much emissions as if you were under load on a dyno. Visual (for us Cali guys/gals) is another story. Just have to find the right shop that really doesn't care about the visual side to the test. Never really understood why there has to be a visual...in the end isn't it what comes out of your exhaust as to why we do emissions test to begin with...LAME! Just another way for C.A.R.B to make a buck (actually its quite expensive to get approved) by charging companies who want to produce High Performance products for automobiles to pay them for approved use in vehicles in California.

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Does it not have a second bung for Wb02?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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edit: i learned to read the entire thread before posting

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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no 2nd bung for wb02
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
no 2nd bung for wb02
eric, is it possible to order it made with the extra bung, capped off?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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eric, is it possible to order it made with the extra bung, capped off?
Deal breaker if not
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Deal breaker if not
Threaded plugs for those bungs can be had for ~$1.50 from the major autoparts stores.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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sweeet..are you using teflon hosing?
If you are asking about fuel hose, no I'm using a Gates SAE30-R10. There are many threads on the subject.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Deal breaker if not
Since people have asked for different locations for a wideband 02 bung we are not offering that option.

The good news is even the world's most inept muffler shop can but the bung exactly where you'd like it.

If that's a dealbreaker, we are truly sorry...because you'd be missing out on a great deal

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...bolt-here.html

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Toxin
Will this pass emissions ? (and I don't mean OBDII testing)
We have had some guys pass and others not. It all depends on your mods and tune. I have seen a guy with a test pipe pass while running E85, so anything is possible.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HR2L
Should, because majority (if not all) smog stations do not have an AWD/4WD Dyno. So all test are free (no load) rev so you wont produce as much emissions as if you were under load on a dyno. Visual (for us Cali guys/gals) is another story. Just have to find the right shop that really doesn't care about the visual side to the test. Never really understood why there has to be a visual...in the end isn't it what comes out of your exhaust as to why we do emissions test to begin with...LAME! Just another way for C.A.R.B to make a buck (actually its quite expensive to get approved) by charging companies who want to produce High Performance products for automobiles to pay them for approved use in vehicles in California.
I know this is a old post and not to say you are wrong but I think there some thing you just may just not know. C.A.R.B. is not out to make a buck, CA govt is having financial troubles and them having to certify cats to meet their standard is not going to solve their problems. CA needs to reduce the pollutants in the air, if we dont start cleaning up our environment, there will be no future. that is way the CARB was formed.

The topic on HFC passing, well it should not pass, the original cat uses alot more precious metals to reduced pollutants. I hear stories of people saying they can pass smog even w/o a cat, but thats a bunch of bull. There is no way someone running a turbo car will run even near perfect combustion. Most of the HFC may not or use enough Cerium which stores Oxygen to keep the CEL light off on the rear O2 section. Im really disappointed that people dont place the o2 senor in the right location by changing the distance from the end of the brick to the o2 sensor location the exhaust pluses misses the o2 sensor which too can cause the CEL to come on also.
Cats really need to be designed according to application. Some cars are more prone to hydrocarbon and some just are more prone to NOx. Since NOx is a endothermic reaction its not surprising we would be prone to it b/c of high boost.

Just my 2cents
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Old May 18, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFastOne
I know this is a old post and not to say you are wrong but I think there some thing you just may just not know. C.A.R.B. is not out to make a buck, CA govt is having financial troubles and them having to certify cats to meet their standard is not going to solve their problems. CA needs to reduce the pollutants in the air, if we dont start cleaning up our environment, there will be no future. that is way the CARB was formed.
not to sounds like i'm picking on you, but come on, you really think CARB is about saving the environment? think about it--why would any organization need to certify any aftermarket component, supposedly for environmental reasons?: if the bottom line is how much pollutant is created, why are not the results of a smog check valid and complete enough by themselves? and if you say that smog checks as they are conducted today are useless, then they can easily be bettered, or they might as well be discontinued.

it's all a joke man. the only sensible reason CARB exists is to make money for the government, and for the political gains of its supporters. think about it... who pays for certification? who gains when a car is caught with illegal components? who looks better when stricter rules are made?

as for your argument about a high flow cat not being able to pass, do you mean specifically on an evo, or on all cars in general? because i have 3 cars, all of which have high flow cats, and all that have been tested have passed. sounds to me like you mean just on an evo though... but sorry if misunderstand, as it's hard to follow your logic.
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