Let's Try This Again...
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Let's Try This Again...
It appears that Garrett has re-released their turbo upgrades for the Evolution X. If this is in fact the source of a dismal and disappointing first release I am anxious to see how potent the re-released version is.
Re-Release of Garrett Mitsubishi Evolution X Turbo Upgrade Kit
Re-Release of Garrett Mitsubishi Evolution X Turbo Upgrade Kit
Re-Release of Garrett Mitsubishi Evolution X Turbo Upgrade Kit
In April of 2009, the Garrett Turbocharger Upgrade for the 2008+ Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X was released. In conjunction with this release, select Evo specialists were selected to test the turbo in a variety of applications including street use, drag racing, road courses and rally racing. Initial feedback from this group was overwhelming in the power gains they saw and the ease of installation; so we asked them to push the turbochargers further.
We wanted them to be as aggressive as possible on these test turbochargers but as they turned up the boost, exhaust gas temperatures (EGTs) reached unanticipated levels. Over extended periods of extreme driving, these elevated EGTs surpassed the tolerances of the turbocharger's internal wastegate arm and valve assembly. This resulted in the wastegate arm warping away from the housing, therefore opening the wastegate port causing a subsequent loss in power. In turn, the warpage allowed the poppet valve to spin freely eventually machining itself off of the connecting rivet.
Honeywell engineers identified the problem and put an immediate halt on all production and sales of the Evo X-specific turbocharger until a solution could be designed and implemented.
The wastegate failure did NOT result in damage to any other turbocharger components other than the wastegate itself. The result of the failure was a loss of power.
Correction to Arm & Valve
There are two visually evident improvements on the re-released Garrett Turbocharger Upgrades.
First is a change of material in both the arm and valve. By moving to a stronger material, warping due to extreme temperatures is avoided.
Second is the addition of an anti-rotational pin to the poppet valve. The valve is now prevented from spinning 360 degrees, making it impossible for the valve to machine itself off of the high temp rivet.
All new units of the Garrett Mitsubishi Evolution X Turbocharger Upgrades feature the enhanced arm and valve.
We are confident that the new arm and valve assembly will provide a turbocharger upgrade that is not only powerful, but reliable for years of service!
If you have any questions, please contact a Garrett Distributor for more information.
In April of 2009, the Garrett Turbocharger Upgrade for the 2008+ Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X was released. In conjunction with this release, select Evo specialists were selected to test the turbo in a variety of applications including street use, drag racing, road courses and rally racing. Initial feedback from this group was overwhelming in the power gains they saw and the ease of installation; so we asked them to push the turbochargers further.
We wanted them to be as aggressive as possible on these test turbochargers but as they turned up the boost, exhaust gas temperatures (EGTs) reached unanticipated levels. Over extended periods of extreme driving, these elevated EGTs surpassed the tolerances of the turbocharger's internal wastegate arm and valve assembly. This resulted in the wastegate arm warping away from the housing, therefore opening the wastegate port causing a subsequent loss in power. In turn, the warpage allowed the poppet valve to spin freely eventually machining itself off of the connecting rivet.
Honeywell engineers identified the problem and put an immediate halt on all production and sales of the Evo X-specific turbocharger until a solution could be designed and implemented.
The wastegate failure did NOT result in damage to any other turbocharger components other than the wastegate itself. The result of the failure was a loss of power.
Correction to Arm & Valve
There are two visually evident improvements on the re-released Garrett Turbocharger Upgrades.
First is a change of material in both the arm and valve. By moving to a stronger material, warping due to extreme temperatures is avoided.
Second is the addition of an anti-rotational pin to the poppet valve. The valve is now prevented from spinning 360 degrees, making it impossible for the valve to machine itself off of the high temp rivet.
All new units of the Garrett Mitsubishi Evolution X Turbocharger Upgrades feature the enhanced arm and valve.
We are confident that the new arm and valve assembly will provide a turbocharger upgrade that is not only powerful, but reliable for years of service!
If you have any questions, please contact a Garrett Distributor for more information.
You gonna see this more and more from "Garrett" turbos. Ever since they were bought out by Honeywell, and outsourcing of labor, their quality of products have gone down the drain.
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Was under the impression that the problems that evo owners were having using the GT35 was the actual operation itself due to its design, even before the high temperatures would cause a failure of the said parts. My knowledge on the matter is limited, but if that's all they fixed, I'd doubt it would help mitigating the problems people were having, assuming I am correct in my understanding of the problem in the first place that is.
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These guys absolutely blew it on the first go-around. A lot of these units got sold and the whole community went silent about the results other than HiBoost. I hope to sweet baby Jesus that everyone got their money back for that turbo-turd.
I hope that instead of relying on "experts" they give this turbo to some of the vendors on this board for proper testing and results sharing. Only then would I entertain the idea of buying from a company that released a total failure into production.
I hope that instead of relying on "experts" they give this turbo to some of the vendors on this board for proper testing and results sharing. Only then would I entertain the idea of buying from a company that released a total failure into production.
They had that article posted up for awhile now... I'm still having trouble getting mine warranty. My vendor says garrett told them there is no fix, but I think it's just the vendor giving me the run around.
Dropped $2k for the turbo and a few more $$$ at a approved evom vendor to get ignored on warranty. =/
Dropped $2k for the turbo and a few more $$$ at a approved evom vendor to get ignored on warranty. =/
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Not really surprised as while the turbocharger says Garrett the product isn't. Honeywell Turbo Technologies turbochargers are now all made in Mexico and China where they can make the product as cheap as possible to make more profit to feed the conglomerate that is Honeywell. A good read from a disgruntled employee about the state of the company once known as Garrett;
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1936851
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1936851
says the guy who thinks that AiResearch Industrial Division or garrett automotive, which is an branch of AlliedSignal, got bought out by honeywell..... when in fact, they bought out honeywell and just adopted their name.... These guys absolutely blew it on the first go-around. A lot of these units got sold and the whole community went silent about the results other than HiBoost. I hope to sweet baby Jesus that everyone got their money back for that turbo-turd.
I hope that instead of relying on "experts" they give this turbo to some of the vendors on this board for proper testing and results sharing. Only then would I entertain the idea of buying from a company that released a total failure into production.
I hope that instead of relying on "experts" they give this turbo to some of the vendors on this board for proper testing and results sharing. Only then would I entertain the idea of buying from a company that released a total failure into production.
Not really surprised as while the turbocharger says Garrett the product isn't. Honeywell Turbo Technologies turbochargers are now all made in Mexico and China where they can make the product as cheap as possible to make more profit to feed the conglomerate that is Honeywell. A good read from a disgruntled employee about the state of the company once known as Garrett;
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1936851
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1936851
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MHI builds a better turbocharger than Garrett, they just don't cater to the aftermarket. Goes all the way back to the DSM days where the old 14b and 16G turbochargers were not only better performing than the crappy Garrett T25 and T28 turbochargers, they also lasted twice as long.