cpunlamd

Apples and oranges my friend. Standard bearing vs dual ball bearing is no competition. Garrett all the way..

weap0n

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If Garrett didn't care about the aftermarket scene or our community, why make the turbo and sell it in the first place. Why show the world you made it at SEMA? And why would they later fix it and re-release it?

I think they do care a lot more about our scene and the aftermarket community then you think they do.

I think its great they have finally admitted fault and done something about it. Now we might finally see more then one persons results documents and shared. I know of at least one shop/vendor on here they got there hand's on this turbo to test, but wouldn't share there results. Hmmmm....

Clipse3GT

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Because it did not make power well enough.

stokEd

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Make money.

To attract people with money.

To continue to make money.

But in all seriousness I'd really like to know more about this turbo and why it didn't work the first time around. Was the WG flapper the only issue? I've only seen results from one person (Hiboost) on both these boards and EXFs.

linjy2

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Couldnt reach them directly or don't know how so I went through my vendor. But they ignored me completely so I took it in the *** and bought more part like everyone else with the 3076r and got the ATP downpipe with a tial 44mm ewg.

I read of them blowing up but my personal experience been decent other then the WG flapper breaking off. Made 450whp on E85 all bolt ons. alil more laggier then the fp red or dom2. Definitely wouldn't buy it for the price or customer service again.

weap0n

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My point exactly.

I don't think my sarcasm came though in my post.

cpunlamd

This is a solid reference from an "actual owner" of that Garrett bolt on turbo. This type of feedback means more than a hand full of Evom members going by hear say..

Hiboost

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I've seen this letter before it got posted and while I applaud them for coming out with a fix, how they left all the purchasers of the turbo in the air before the fix was NOT the correct way to do business. Why did I have to purchase an ATP O2 DP with External Tial WG just to correct an issue that Garrett had in their design from day one?

Really the main problem is when you sell parts for cars that require more than 1-2 hrs of labor to install or un-install, having to remove the said defective part to get it serviced is a ROYAL pain in the you know what. Honestly even if I could have gotten my turbo replaced under warranty, the 1-2 week downtime I was looking at without an advanced replacement would have been erased with rental car bills since it's my daily driver. I would be willing to pay several hundred dollars more up front if it meant that the quality was top notch but instead we got a product that should have been tested more thourougly before being released to the public. The very idea that unexpected high EGT's was the cause for failure is mind boggling since any test for 30 minutes of road course driving even at low boost would have exposed the problem BEFORE it hit the shelves.

I'm installing my coilovers this weekend and if the weather holds I'll swap on my summer wheels/tires and try and get some Dyno runs in at STM with the latest setup.

murlo26

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Awfully early for summer tires, lol. Be careful

eTiLiKo

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Golden

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I'd be afraid that that could still "machine" its way off, because it can still rotate a good 300* one way and back.

linjy2

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my broken flapper.

cpunlamd

+1 that thing can still move around.

livnpaintball2

we provide probably less than 10% of their revenue,

I would say 1% or less.

cpunlamd

Does this mean x-nay on the new garrett ay?